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submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Federal data shows the national crime rate has dropped under President Biden

Donald Trump backed out of an interview after a local paper asked him for data to back up his continued baseless claims that crime is on the rise under President Joe Biden.

The Detroit News reported that Trump’s campaign had agreed to an interview with the former president on Tuesday after a campaign speech. However, the campaign suddenly claimed Trump no longer had time for the interview after a reporter began probing them on crime data.

“The Trump campaign had initially agreed that Trump would participate in an interview with The Detroit News on Tuesday,” state politics reporter Craig Mauger wrote. “But after the newspaper began asking about the Michigan crime data before the event, a campaign aide said the presidential candidate no longer had time for an interview after the speech.”

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 245 points 2 years ago

Pulling out of a scheduled interview as part of a presidential campaign because the interviewer wants you to back up your claim sure is a weird thing to do.

[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 127 points 2 years ago

Convicted felon Trump's kryptonite is a followup question.

[-] Enthusiasticwhale@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Pretty much... Weird coward still is a coward

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[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 87 points 2 years ago

If this is all you have to do, then EVERY MEDIA OUTLET should do this. Not even hardball, just "ok can you show me some numbers?"

If that's all it takes to get this chicken shit weirdo to curl up in a ball, then fucking do it. He gets no airtime then other than his stupid rallies commemorating when he was pitted against an octogenarian.

[-] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago
[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago
[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
[-] breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago
[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Oh, dogs. Sure, I like dags. I like caravans more.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

"Ma! Get me fookin' Adderall from oot the caravan. Jaysos Chroist. Any o you lads seen General Kelly? I got dags to foire!"

NGL Pikey Trump would have been amazing to watch.

[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I have too much respect for the Romani people to wish that upon them. Although he is absolutely a born swindler.

[-] Fish@midwest.social 77 points 2 years ago

Holy fucking shit, I wish mainstream outlets would take notes. Any time Trump talks about crime or immigration or really anything, all you have to do is bring up facts. Quit fucking meeting Republicans in the middle with their lying and bigotry.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 70 points 2 years ago

I liked this at the end of the article:

The Washington Post estimated that during his presidency, Trump made more than 30,000 false or misleading statements.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I watched the debate between Trump and Biden and could hardly believe that there were no fact checks at all from the moderators. Sure, it would have been good if Biden had pointed out more clearly that almost every statement Trump made was factually incorrect. But can you really just tell any tall tales in your presidential debates without even mentioning any facts? That seems absurd. Is that the norm for presidential debates in the US? Or is it just that Trump would not have participated if there were fact checks?

[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago

Do you think for a second that Trump would agree to a debate with fact checking?

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

No, but I thought the US public wouldn't let him get away with never engaging in a (factual) debate. That would make him look weak, because that's how democracy usually works. You know, arguments and counter-arguments - that sort of thing.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Trump lies at a rate where fact checkers can't keep up.

[-] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

Generally, it is more difficult to use the Gish gallop in a structured debate than a free-form one.

This sums it up nicely, and why I think he's like any bully: he picks his fights and only ones he can win.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think so. It's just the same lies he repeats over and over again.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Repeating lies is essential to get the "poorly educated" to believe.

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[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

It would have been best if there was fact checking as part of the debate, but as you speculated, there's no way Trump would agree to that. And, to be fair, it's probably a difficult thing to do live and accurately in timely manner.

However, other news agencies were doing fact checking during and following the debate.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, it's certainly not easy to check facts live. But you can at least be well prepared, especially as the questions are asked by the journalists and they should also know the usual claims made by the candidates. I also don't think it's necessary to check every figure. I just mean that it makes sense to name obvious false statements as such - Trump has made enough of them, and most of them were anything but new. And yes, it is of course also true that there are fact-checks after the fact, but I think that this is often not noticed at all. The presidential debates are an event that many people watch, but unfortunately only a few inform themselves afterwards. That's why I think it's necessary to expose at least the grossest untruths immediately.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The media are owned by the oligarchs and those mostly back Trump. Simple as that.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I can't argue with that.

That is a very weird way to phrase "Old man throws temper tantrum and refuses to do previously agreed upon interview when called out for lying"

As far as I'm concerned, every media outlet that sugarcoats things, or misrepresent things, or otherwise skews the truth about what the MAGAts are up to are 100% in bed with Republicans, and are mouthpieces for the MAGAgenda

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

He's really banking on the crazies overthrowing the election isn't he?

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

He is, and they're a lot closer to getting that done than you'd like to believe.

[-] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

The Washington Post estimated that during his presidency, Trump made more than 30,000 false or misleading statements.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 17 points 2 years ago

That seems like a really low estimate.

[-] poprocks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Agreed. There's only so much budget and time they can commit to fact checking this turd. There's real news to report on.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 2 years ago

20 per day, certainly he had more than 20 interactions per day

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago

Just so you know, trump is a known liar. Nothing he says can be taken at face value. Fact check everything.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago
[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

What a coward

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

Big strong man can't handle being questioned.

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago
[-] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

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[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

That's pretty weird.

[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago
[-] starrwulfe@social.vivaldi.net 3 points 2 years ago

@MicroWave

All media everywhere needs to just start a “be for real” campaign whenever they’re about to interview him, and perhaps he’ll just self-censor into oblivion…
cc: @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Someone got me on that scared, scared little man gif? I haven't quite figured them out on Boost, not that I tried terribly hard

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