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[-] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 193 points 2 years ago

Just check their comment history for like 30 seconds. Everyone makes a joke that misses the mark every now and then, but the shittiest people usually constantly spew their nonsense.

[-] girltwink@lemmy.world 136 points 2 years ago

Just don't punch down. Simple as.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 70 points 2 years ago

Dont tell me how to shitpost. If I want extra spicy ill get banned doing it

[-] THED4NIEL@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

A person of culture, I see

[-] CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

What the fuck did you just say about me?

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[-] Hyggyldy@sffa.community 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I only punch interdimensionally. Damn those lazy Gorblecks.

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[-] WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi 96 points 2 years ago

The problem is the red ones take the orange ones seriously. Please don't feed the trolls.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago

Poe’s Law. Without a sarcasm tag it’s impossible to know if the person is being sarcastic or is that extreme.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago

You can always find someone on a social media site who actually holds that belief

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 68 points 2 years ago

Respectfully mention that it's kinda insensitive, kinda like, "hey man, don't you think that's kinda insensitive?" and you'll probably figure out fairly quickly which one is the answer. Additionally, if they legit don't know why it's insensitive, then you can educate them!

Just remember that tone can be difficult to convey on the internet, and sometimes you have to exaggerate the intended tone for it to be understood. Additionally, in my experience, asking the question from the other person's perspective ("don't you think that's kinda insensitive" vs "I think that's kinda insensitive") seems to help a lot.

[-] DominicHillsun@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

How about just deal with it? Internet is meant to be free space, that includes racists, bigots, rednecks, people you disagree with.

Lemmy is worried about 1984 but in actuality is becoming Fahrenheit 451.

[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 100 points 2 years ago

Yeah, no. The Internet isn't meant to be a safe space for bigots. They're free to post and everyone else is free to chase them back under the rock where they belong.

[-] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 2 years ago

Lemmy is worried about 1984 but in actuality is becoming Fahrenheit 451.

I don't think you've read either book because that analogy makes absolutely no sense.

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[-] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 45 points 2 years ago

My brother in Christ, you are conflating free speech with the freedom from consequences. You are free to express your opinions. You will not be arrested for that. You can use the internet however you wish to express whatever opinions you have, no matter how stupid or hateful they are.

However, if your opinion sucks, the community will "deal with it" by down voting your dumb ass, and if you piss enough people off, you'll get banned. Your rights have not been infringed. You're just an asshole and people don't want to listen to you anymore. You can freely go complain about it somewhere else.

I'm sure there is a community on the Internet that would welcome your shitty opinions into their little echo chamber. Go there if you don't like it here. Or, as you say: "deal with it".

[-] stratoscaster@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 years ago

"but why can't I say offensive shit, it's so funny every single time"

It's not, edgy humor is stale especially the likes of 4chan

[-] dlpkl@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Hey man, don't you think that's kinda insensitive?

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

Nobody on the left is burning books if you'd look outside your bunker asshole.

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[-] new_acct_who_dis@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Love you telling on yourself with that list

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People have the right to say what they want (at least in the US, mostly), which includes people voicing their disagreement with stuff. It's a two-way street and we're better off with it that way. You can't force someone to listen to you, just like someone can't force you to listen to them.

What you can do, however, is attempt to educate people if they're willing to be educated. If successful in doing so, you help decrease the amount of bigotry that exists. In my opinion, attempting to engage with an individual to determine their intent is a way of dealing with it. Why stay silent when you could help make the world a better place?

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[-] neptune@dmv.social 65 points 2 years ago

The shit posters drive a wedge in a community and the people who don't like the "innocent" jokes leave. This makes fertile ground for ideological take over. Rinse and repeat in Fandoms, subreddits, message boards, etc.

[-] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago

My days on the Opie and Anthony reddit has given me good tone reading.

Fun racism and non fun racism. If it's ugly in tone they're racist. Remember Patrice or maybe Louis ck joking about how "jew" is both the normal term for Jewish people and the slur depending on the tone of how you say it. Reminds me of that but harder to tell with text.

[-] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 17 points 2 years ago

"louie Louie Louie loooooieeeee!"

I miss his FX show. He's a great comedian. Glad he came out and apologized and even made fun of himself a bit. I don't believe in eternal damnation of public figures like that unless people get physically harmed.

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[-] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 51 points 2 years ago

Tbh this is what I love with (uncensored) internet. It’s hard to draw the line between sarcasm and mental illness.

[-] stratoscaster@lemmy.zip 82 points 2 years ago

Yeah but also it enables stuff like Nazi dogwhistling soooo lmao

[-] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Well, Nazi existed before the internet and would exist without it. They didn’t wait for the internet to enable themselves. There can’t be zero downside for having a 100% free platform, I do agree.

[-] stratoscaster@lemmy.zip 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah but Nazism spread via propaganda, which is what dogwhistling is a form of.

The Internet is the largest spreader of propaganda that humanity has ever seen, so it's not surprising that it helped revitalize neo-nazism and fascism is general. It also served to make satire and actual radicalized behavior harder to detect. A lot of the time, 4chan boards use this "edgy satire" format to normalize the behavior (to an extent). See: the "MAP" misinformation campaign they did and how it reinforced actual pedophilia and demonized LGBT groups

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 34 points 2 years ago

Are you completely oblivious to the rise of right wing ideology the last 10-15+ years? The internet has 100% enabled it.

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[-] Trarmp@feddit.nl 20 points 2 years ago

Wrong. /b/ was never good.

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[-] Bombastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 years ago
[-] Bavznsj716@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

We want everyone to have a place to voice their opinion! Proceeds to down vote everything that doesn’t fit their narrow view of the world.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 years ago

The extreme right and I disagree on whether I should live, just a casual difference of opinion.

Or.. no. Fuck that, fuck them, and fuck you?! Let's go with option 2.

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[-] Rozauhtuno 21 points 2 years ago

Yes, let's tolerate any kind of intolerance. What could possibly go wrong? 🤡

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[-] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago
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[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago

There is such a thing as a "non-extremist" right-winger?

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The "extremist" part of Right wing "extremist" is meaningless. All reactionary politics are extreme, whether they take the active form of stochastic terror or they take the passive form of social murder (as defined by Engels in 1845, see below). The plausible deniability employed by reactionaries as camouflage among jokes is extremely transparent to anyone familiar enough with it.

[-] Ryan213@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

They make crude jokes on the internet?!

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[-] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 19 points 2 years ago

Shitposters are definitely not innocent.

I would also replace it with trolls because comments in that territory are consistently on or over the line.

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