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submitted 2 months ago by possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip to c/linux@lemmy.ml

It is against the rules but but what is it exactly?

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[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 95 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Spreading Linux misinformation is saying things about Linux that aren't true.

Examples:

These can be jokes or trolling like “You can save space by removing the system's pre-installed French language pack by running sudo rm -fr /” (disclaimer don't do this!)

Or misconceptions, such as “You probably don't have a virus even if you suspect it, due to Linux's nature viruses aren't possible” (you absolutely can)

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago

"Arch is stable"

[-] Eiri@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

That's genius. Absolutely evil, but genius.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

All it's been doing for at least the past 15 years is throw an error message. Because there really isn't any reason you'd want to do that on purpose.

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[-] princessnorah 14 points 2 months ago

I have seen that code block so many times, but never with the options switch around so it stands for french 😂 Thankfully in most cases these days you need to add --no-preserve-root for this command to run.

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[-] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That you can "do everything that windows does". You can't. You can do similar things, you can do different things, you can do basic things, yes, but Linux can't do everything that windows does.

disclaimer: on linux since 2006

[-] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Could you give an example of something linux can't do?

Or are you alluding to windows software not running on linux even with wine etc?

[-] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I built an entire theatre using Linux. Architect was on autocad, that was alright, but engineering was on vectorworks & there I had to ask for .dxf exports.

Qlab (macos) is 100% a no-go, I actually own a macbook just for this piece of software.

Isadora runs on wine, but video play is problematic. Isadora is a video mapper/VJ/mixing software.

Of the big three of lighting console software, only Chamsys' MagicQ runs on Linux. Infuriating when you know Grand MA consoles are linux-based. ETC? Don't ask.

It's niche (how about Enttec or DMXKing interfaces configurator?) but it's my niche. I survive doing things differently, and, yes, owning a dual-boot AsahiLinux/MacOS device.

[-] ganymede@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not sure if when people say you can “do everything that windows does”, they should be interpreted to mean "every single piece of software/drivers ever written for windows was also written for linux".

[-] superkret@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

When you work in an industry where the entire collaborative workflow of everyone is based on software that doesn't run on Linux, then not running that software is equal to not being able to work in that industry.

Yes, you can mix music on Linux PC's. No, you can't run a concert venue on Linux PC's.
Believe me, my team and I have tried. And we yell "fuck this proprietary shit" on a regular basis. But we're still forced to use it.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Using this definition then Windows can't do everything Linux does either, and MaOS can't do everything Windows and Linux can do.

I don't think people use that phrase to mean "all Windows software is compatible with Linux".

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Interesting point, but when people want to switch, and they hear Linux can do everything that windows can, they will think that everything they can do on windows can be done on Linux. To make everyone happy, Linux must be a superset. That's a tough ask.

Another thing Linux can't do: Run all hardware on many new computers.

Not that much of a problem, just buy different hardware or wait - they'll address the works. But if someone just bought fancy new hardware, and wants to put Linux on it, there is a decent chance of running into sore spots, or of Linux not booting at all.

That said, it would be pretty clear to say "Linux can't do everything windows can, and windows can't do everything Linux can. But for most cases, there's enough overlap that you'll be happy on Linux."

Edit: wording, additional stuff

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[-] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Digitally sign a PDF with a couple of clicks.

So far, I have spent about 6 hours (sporadically over the past 3 years) trying to set up a way to do this, yet ultimately it didn't ever work at all. And every time I end up using some online third party service just to get it over with.

I did it on Windows once and the setup was a simple 5 step wizard. After which digitally signing a document just works with a couple of clicks.

Bonus round:

  • on Linux there is only one PDF viewer that implements tripple click for selecting a whole line AND can invert the colors of the document (which helps some partially blind users). That viewer is Atril and it has no way of even attempting to digitally sign a PDF. As soon as you want to do the signing, you lose those one of the two features and people with impairments can't do their work properly.

  • the screen readers have voices from the 90s and setting up anything modern with them is above my skill grade - as again, I fucked with it for days and didn't manage to get a natural sounding voice to work. On Windows it is way simpler, including working well for mixed language documents - for example German text with technical terms in english or latin.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

TBH the problem is the PDF format. It was created as proprietary trash. It's just more adobe software so ofc it doesn't support linux.

[-] thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Yes, but still, it' something that may be commonly required, and Linux can't do it >!(according to the comment above, I never tried to do it so can't comment on how hard or easy it is)!<

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[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

Okular can digitally sign, invert colors (poorly hidden away so you need to customize the toolbar, but it has multiple ways, which is kinda cool).

TTS yes, but there seems to be progress. There is speech-dispatcher which could be used with piperTTS

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[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 6 points 2 months ago

Run 3dsmax.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Software and hardware support definitely counts.

I would also guess that probably a lot of Microsoft enterprise stuff like active directory group policies likely aren't supported well, but I don't have enough knowledge to back that up.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago

For instance, Linux hasn't started putting ads+AI in everything. It is 2024 people get with the program!

[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 8 points 2 months ago

This is correct. Linux doesn't suck and Windows most definitely does that very well. I'd also add you can do quite advanced things on Linux, as well.

Also disclaiming: Using Linux since 1999

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[-] jlsalvador@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For example, when someone ask for a command to list files, and another one reply with a command that removes everything.

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago

Or

curl -O https://software.download.prss.microsoft.com/dbazure/Win11_23H2_English_x64v2.iso?t=20e395a3-e609-4696-99fe-f6edcc14f54a&P1=1723809112&P2=601&P3=2&P4=YoihsrepRARlh%2faBo1mABEe7A0aL0yWPYOcR3dNAmlaFPDavFokSpv0oFQybmpuDhG%2f677UBlN%2fRIxY9B3EFVC5TFca%2bXI%2bA%2bQAxqraW1SGCgmpteLlZYntp2E21cpv4RIJ8aifL9z0ecBwNtgwBAY526haPg2RgKhb225RwnAER0EDGWMrDLookFFCm8th8akKETDwKQYQnVKZ%2bJUCTvlt06D42oCJ10fXcVv2D6du6Kuudtc8NgV3DSXPuB4ADK1l951o37bvijDkqAKn70aHyidA5HgdpO5O8K3PPvsre%2bNSVWLbgh7UkEeU1BNMO0INPFiGVqEIaeGorhYxS0w%3d%3d
[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why stop there

curl $windows_iso_url | sudo dd of=/dev/sda bs=4M && sudo sync; sudo reboot

(Do not run this)

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[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago

One example I encountered was with someone I know who mentioned Linux, and I said I use it and he suddenly got fascinated and started asking me how I get anything done when all I have is just a command prompt and how does that work. Somewhere along the way he'd gotten the idea that Linux has no GUI at all and you just do everything in the terminal. Not sure where that idea came from but I was like no dude, it works pretty much like any other OS, it has Firefox and Chrome and stuff. I think he was a bit disappointed lol.

[-] TheCynicalSaint@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

A friend of mine believes similar except it's that everything in Linux doesn't actually work and you have to fix it constantly. It's rather frustrating to deal with.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago

doesn’t help when you have “Arch BTW” types that like the mystique that myth gives them

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[-] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 months ago

That Wayland works for everybody.

[-] thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz 32 points 2 months ago

Yes, but "Wayland is trash and will never be better than X" is also misinformation.

[-] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
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[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Agree with you homie, even more so, some people deadass saying that arch is stable and good for windows refugees

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Remember when Bill Gates said that open source software was fascist?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

*communist

But honesty they are the same in many respects

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How are communism and fascism the same? What definitions are you using?

AFAIK communism advocates for a stateless, classless, moneyless society, while fascism advocates for imperial nationalism and the violent class hierarchies of capitalism, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, etc.

They seem much more like opposites under the standard definitions. I don't understand doublespeak.

[-] mkuznetsoff@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

as a Russian who has studied the history of the USSR, i can say that Stalin's regime might seem like a kind of fascism now, but by no means am I saying that Stalin's communism was anything like Marx's or Lenin's.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 months ago
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[-] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Outdated launch parameters and environment variables uploaded to ProtonDB

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[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

You don't know what misinformation is? Basically it's all kinds of lies, intentional or not.

[-] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

is a lie a lie if it's unintentional?

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Not really but it's still misinformation.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

misinformation != desinformation

Both exist plenty...

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That Linux is a single OS where OS means a distro. They end up thinking that there are 3 systems in the world, Windows, Mac and Linux.

They're pretty close, there are three types of kernels used my majority of modern computers but they since they aren't really into different OS software they equate it with "there only 3 types of OS GUIs".

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