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The joyful Minnesota governor is a valuable spokesperson for Harris whose background and personality can help the Democratic ticket undermine Trump’s efforts to woo America’s men.

Tim Walz’s first official speech on the Democratic ticket displayed all the reasons that Kamala Harris has been lauded for picking the Minnesota governor as her running mate. Personally, I think one outshines all the rest.

Walz’s military background and his work as a high school teacher and football coach, along with his palpable joy and open expressions of compassion for people in need, offer America a vision of what manhood can look like — he’s a “joyful warrior” offering a vision in contrast with what’s being offered by Donald Trump’s bravado-driven campaign.

And he’s clearly willing to challenge Team Trump on that front. He displayed that even before he received the call to join Harris’ campaign, using public appearances to refer to Trump and his allies as “bullies” who are truly weak at heart and by mocking the GOP ticket for “running for He-Man Women Haters Club or something.”

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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 365 points 3 months ago

Its also proof to the dipshits we don't hate masculinity. We hate toxic masculinity. In fact, we find Tim Walz brand of masculinity refreshing and delightful

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 99 points 3 months ago

This right here.

Being a man isn't about strength, or appearance, or body count, or power over others.

It's about accountability, honesty, resilience (NOT bottling everything down), and meaningful effort.

Yeah it might not be the most physically attractive all the time, but I see my purpose in life to make sure we all have better so that we can all do better.

Walz joining the VP has really given me a new sense of courage I've been lacking lately, and I'm really happy to see others recognizing it to.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Being a man isn't about strength

One of the few things that I disagree with in your statement and, really, it's down to semantics. The are more types of strength than physical strength. There's strength of character, there's emotional strength, and more. But, like physical strength, all of these can be "exercised", for example contemplating ethical quandaries can strengthen one's character and ethical self-identity.

While much more abstract, I do find "strength" in this usage part of my model of masculinity.

Now, about this:

Yeah it might not be the most physically attractive all the time,

I guarantee that to someone, you absolutely are. Remember that practically noone just "sees" another human being, they perceive them. Our visual perception is NOT raw data. It is filtered by the context, real or imagined, that we associate with the person that we're looking at. It's the combination of all this in a non-straightforward manner that will impact how physically attractive someone finds us.

but I see my purpose in life to make sure we all have better so that we can all do better.

You know what I was saying above? Yeah. This is exactly the kind of thing will influence how you are perceived, even visually.

Walz joining the VP has really given me a new sense of courage I've been lacking lately, and I'm really happy to see others recognizing it to.

I'm sorry that you've been feeling less courageous lately. The world can fuck us all up from time to time. If it gets too severe, I'd definitely recommend seeing a therapist, if you are comfortable and able to do so (and aren't already).

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

or body count

Aww, man. Are you telling me my Cawl O Doodie K/D ratio won't impress the girls‽‽‽

/j

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I see masculinity as a bit of a spectrum -- there's traits a lot of men share, but not all men necessarily have them, and women can have them too, and that doesn't make anyone lesser.

Helping people, protecting people, being true to yourself, conducting yourself with honor. That's what I see as masculinity. I guess in some ways, it's the idealized perfect knight haha

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 273 points 3 months ago

I read somewhere else a woman who said, "Walz represents all the dads we used to have but lost to Fox News."

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 82 points 3 months ago

God damn, that's heart wrenching.

[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 192 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even down to a caveman level, the role of a strong man was to be the protector of the tribe/family. Using your strength to protect others is what makes a strong man.

Inflicting your insecurities on others and feeding your ego by attacking vulnerable people are the actions of a bully, not a strong man.

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago

Said so well!!

[-] Huschke@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Coincidently the latter are the traits of a strongman though. So remember kids, be a strong man not a strongman.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I like that Spanish has the word caudillo, which approximately means strongman and is not easily confused with anything else. It's almost always applied to Latin American leaders (like Maduro) but it seems like exactly what Trump aspires to be.

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[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 93 points 3 months ago

As much as I think a "would you like to have a beer with the candidates?" is a stupid way of measuring things...I wouldn't mind having a beer with these candidates.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 97 points 3 months ago

Especially because Trump and Vance would roofie your beer

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago

Then leave you with the bill

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 3 months ago

Hey now, let's be honest. Vance would roofie the bar stool.

[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

and Trump would just... "your beer? Haven't seen it. There's just MY two glasses of beer here. A great beer, the greatest. My uncle invented beer, Fred Budweiser Trump. Great IQ, very good genes!"

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

He's probably slip it some stool softener too.

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[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They'd show up late, drink too much too fast, try to order off your tab, ramble about bullshit conspiracy theories and talk over you at every opportunity, act like a sleeze to the waitress and get too handsy. Then they'd want to play pool but refuses to rack, blames the cue or someone in their field of view for their bad shots but does anything to try and distract you, hits the ball off the table multiple times but tries to get constant do-overs, claims every time you hit it's a scratch and quote obscure rules, at least once they try to sneak one of their balls in the pocket when it's your turn, when they lose they just toss their cue onto the pool table or lean it against instead of putting it away, and spends the next 45 minutes constantly saying how they should have won...

[-] tryagain@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

I need to hear more about this date.

[-] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

That was oddly specific wasn’t it!? 😂

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

Walz says he has given up alcohol entirely after his DUI years ago. But I bet Harris is super fun once she gets into the box of wine in the fridge.

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 92 points 3 months ago

Honestly, I see Walz as a strong and empathetic dad figure, and Harris as a firm but joyful mom figure for a lot of Americans who had shit parental figures growing up.

They make an excellent team.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 40 points 3 months ago

While Trump is the weird granddad who really went off the deep end, and Vance the creepy uncle who you don't trust leaving alone in your home with your couch.

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[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 30 points 3 months ago

I see Harris as that goofy kind hearted aunt. She might not connect with you all the time, but you know she means well. Walz is definitely more like the dad that Americans wish they grew up with.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't treat politicians like family members. I'm not interested in that.

I want boring politics. I want them to not fucking be in the news every time they sneeze. I want kids to get lunches. I want Americans to be able to live a comfortable life. I want immigrants to become Americans and conservative terrorism to get fucked.

I don't want a cool aunt figure and I'm not interested in putting any of these politicians as a hat slogan or a flag.

Fuck Trump and I'm voting for Harris. But don't get it twisted...

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

this is my analysis of the running candidates right now, but Kamala is the urbanite minority runner, walz is the rural white runner. Kamala has lots of experience in urban environments and dealing with large companies and corpos, walz has a lot of experience supporting individuals and families and has many years in rural Midwestern politics.

kamala is more visibly younger, walz is visibly older, but they're both essentially 60. Kamala picks up the votes of the younger millenials and gen z's while walz picks up the votes of the gen x and boomer populations who resonate with his values.

Kamala should represent basically every large population center, cali, new york, probably not chicago, but they'll probably vote for her anyway, etc...

Walz is basically courting the entire midwestern vote by being midwestern, as well as rural, more moderate/center leaning voters.

This is quite literally the avengers team of the democratic party right now. I don't think you could have made a better team.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Idk I’m a zennial and Walz hits right in the Midwest of it all. I’d be voting for Kamala for sure and I’m excited for a female president, especially one that isn’t Hillary, but to my young urban Midwestern tendencies walz feels like a guy who’d brag about how cheap his couch was before making a quip about it not being cheap enough to fuck Vance. He feels more Ohioan than Vance for certain.

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[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 13 points 3 months ago

Speaking of shit parents, I think it's relevant that they're the first non-boomer candidates (Biden technically isn't but he's close) since '92.

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[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 3 months ago

'MAGA choked up, struggling with Walz's manhood'

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 months ago

How's that gag order treating ya, Donnie?

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

"Republicans turned off by the size of Obama's package" vibes

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[-] Jackfinished@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Is that a 'full throated' endorsement? Hear that's popular with the MAGA crowd.

[-] inbeesee@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

We need more good male role models. People with tender hearts and rough hands.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

I also love that the weirdest thing about him (word choice intentional) is his preferred beverage of diet Mountain Dew, which Vance also drinks instead of coffee.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Looking forward to the Republican who badmouths Walz for being a football coach, only to be reminded of Tommy Tuberville.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

so far the worst they've had to say is that he's left leaning. Oh no, he likes queer people having rights, what ever will we do.

I think every other significant dig has turned into a meme almost immediately so it's not working very well.

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[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Walz’s military background and his work as a high school teacher and football coach, along with his palpable joy and open expressions of compassion for people in need, offer America a vision of what manhood can look like — he’s a “joyful warrior” offering a vision in contrast with what’s being offered by Donald Trump’s bravado-driven campaign.

Manhood is when you serve in the military and play football. Really open and progressive ideas here.

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