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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 216 points 1 month ago

Isn't claiming territory that doesn't belong to you as yours the definition of imperialism?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 97 points 1 month ago

They get around this by using a version of Lenin's definition of imperialism. Lenin characterised imperialism as, in very simple terms, the way that powerful capitalist countries exploit poorer countries (or straight up colonies, especially considering the time in which Lenin was writing). Of course they use a version of this that specifically defines it as just literally anything the countries they don't like do, leading to ProleWiki insisting that Russia is not imperialist but Liechtenstein is

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

Similarly to how 'reactionary' just means 'bad' to these people. For the record a 'reactionary' is somebody who wants to restore a previous status quo. It's not inherently good or bad.

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 24 points 1 month ago

It all starts with a flag.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 135 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

By this logic, Australia, America, India and a ton of other countries are still part of England.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 98 points 1 month ago

"No, not like that!" - tankies

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait till Portugal and Spain get hold of this.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 month ago

Most of England belongs to Rome!

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 month ago

Except for that northern bit across the wall.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

No. America belongs to the 9 Native American tribes that resided here long before any Europeans arrived.

[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 49 points 1 month ago

I think you mean the over 500 native American tribes, unless you are putting down something that I am not picking up.

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[-] Chivera@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

And Skyrim belongs to the Nords!

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[-] Fetus@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

Calling it North Korea and not the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

[-] BigRedUndead@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure you mean “Best Korea”

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[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 month ago
  • USA belongs to Great Britain
  • England and France belongs to the Roman empire
  • Poland belongs to Prussia
[-] mecfs@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

England belongs to roman empire too.

Oh wait, does that mean US belongs to the roman empire all along?

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

No countries are real. Everything belongs to everyone because our ancestors were there first.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 48 points 1 month ago

There's no possible way this isn't bait.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

I wish to return to the time where I could have agreed with you

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 48 points 1 month ago

The US belongs to the UK. But you can keep the Bible belt, we don't want that bit.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

if you don't support imperialism, you're supporting imperialism

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

It's a neat little trick how fascists say things that are the exact opposite of objective reality, and don't see the irony.

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[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

TIL there are "'correct" .ml communities.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

Well there sure as hell are "incorrect" ones, apparently.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

!opensource@lemmy.ml and other open source projects are decent

As always, !linux@programming.dev and !opensource@programming.dev are here as alternatives

[-] crawancon@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago

I've not had too much of a problem in the .ml communities. they have their opinions and discuss them.

it's that hexbear half joke half serious mix of Marxists and fascists that like reallllly get off on removing comments that don't suit their agenda. I understand not agreeing, but silencing dissenting opinions is the foundation of a lame internet community.

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[-] AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 month ago

My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with "if you disagree, youre the evil one"

[-] flerp@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

These countries that want to be free and independent should be owned by another country that wants to own them and if you disagree you support imperialism... mind-boggling

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[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Isn't people 'belonging' someone else a definition of slavery?

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 month ago

But Russia officially belongs to Mongolia

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

Within Russia, "imperialism" means "opposition of Russian imperialism", and "fascism" is just used as "opposition of not supporting the Russian government".

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[-] cheddar@programming.dev 37 points 1 month ago

POV: you wrote anything anywhere and you don't have hexabear/lemmygrad/lemmyml blocked.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

FWIW, the full list of disputed territories is much longer than you think. Basically, every map in existence is also picking sides whether they know it or not; a realization I find chilling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

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[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

"If you don't support the rights of these imperialistic fascist regimes to do imperialistic and fascist things then you are an imperialist and a fascist."

Yeah okay. Sure.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Imagine looking at millions of people living in the relatively prosperous democracy of South Korea and believing that all these people belong as chattel slaves of a monarch who starves his people and throws entire families into concentration camps to die if one member dares to speak out. Every regime supported here is a fascist dictator.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago
[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Louisiana (Kansas, Missouri, Dakotas, Minnesota) belongs to France! 🇫🇷

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago
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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 30 points 1 month ago

Most Communists I know of are very much pro-Rojava on account of their attempts to build a socialistic society.

Seems like a bait tweet to me.

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Every lemmy.ml community is the wrong community to join.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Did they provide any justification for the claim? Or is it just the usual "because I said so"?

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[-] crawancon@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

is this the hexbear manifestó

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[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

huh? isnt china the top imperialist in the list? who gained more land in the last decade? pfff lemmygrads are a special kind of stupid.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

I can’t believe they would grandstand like that and leave out “America belongs to the natives”. Pretty weird.

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Uh...Russia, China and North Korea are all fascist dictatorships. Tankies wouldn't be nearly as annoying if they had a fucking clue what they were taking about.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago

Know the most annoying part?

All these LGBTQ+ tankies from Hexbear would literally be killed in those countries for supporting LGBTQ+. And the cops will say that they deserve it.

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