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[-] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 222 points 1 month ago

He’ll do a debate if it’s in his safe space. Snowflake.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 95 points 1 month ago

I think this is bad news tbh. Harris can be as capable as she wants, but if the broadcaster doesnt stop Trump from a endless ramble or cut off his mic if he escalates to intolerable levels of behaviour, then this could end badly.

[-] Lavitz@lemmings.world 47 points 1 month ago

Don't give Fox News respect. Start talking shit about it right now. Call this what it is, a scared old weird man who will only debate Harris on a "news" network currently paying billions for lying to everyone about the last election. Harris will treat Trump and the "journalists" playing moderators like children which is how we should've been treating them for years. Talking to them like adults validates their lies and bullshit.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago

Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”

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[-] cynthorpe@discuss.online 35 points 1 month ago
[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Underhanded. I like it.

[-] natecox@programming.dev 130 points 1 month ago

This is a weird way to say “Trump backs out of debating Harris on ABC”.

[-] vanontom@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

NYT are fools for using that headline. Their journalists, or editor, obscured the facts with that one. "Updated" headline (not joking):

Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead

[-] natecox@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago

Haha I see that new headline. ‘tegrity.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

The biggest issue is many people will have only seen the first headline and not the update. They got inaccurate information and it won't be corrected, and the NYT is to blame.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 112 points 1 month ago

In what sense has he agreed something if no one else involved knows about it? I think the right verb here is 'suggests'.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He made a post saying that's the "deal". In a way it's a ~~brave~~ brazen way to try and get a venue change. Harris would have to basically insult Fox News and their entire viewership to avoid looking like she's walking away.

[-] shani66@ani.social 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Which (insulting fox and their viewers) she should do regardless, tbh

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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 89 points 1 month ago

only if harris somehow sneaks a bullhorn/megaphone onto the stage so she can still make sure those fuckers hear her when her mic "malfunctions".

fox deserves no respect.

You know how fascists are always projecting; the way he treats normal news agencies tells us all we need to know - it's exactly how we SHOULD be treating his pet agencies.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago

Fox Moderator: "Vice President Harris, how would you respond to the accusation that your administration was responsible for the supply-chain crisis, grocery price inflation, massive corporate layoffs, Texas power outages, the summer heat wave, and the border apocalypse?"

Harris: "What? Now wait..."

Fox Moderator: "President Trump. They say you have the best golf record of any president in history. How did you accomplish this historic feat?"

...

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[-] elrik@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago

This was the obvious move - attempt to change the venue to Fox, Newsmax or worse. I'm surprised Tucker isn't a proposed moderator.

Harris should counter with a live fact check requirement regardless of venue, which Trump and Fox could never accept.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

Even with a live fact check requirement, would you trust Fox News to fact check? They'd probably use "alternative facts".

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 64 points 1 month ago

Her statement should make clear that she is only interested in debates hosted by news networks, citing Fox News' own lawyers who say that they aren't journalists, but rather "entertainers".

Maybe also make a point of refusing to work with an organization that was found liable for defaming voting machine manufacturers and poll workers during the last election.

There are endless valid reasons for saying no to this debate, and holding Trump to the original debate schedule he already agreed to.

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 56 points 1 month ago

Trump: "I am chickening out of the debate with Harris, and trying to force it onto a right-wing propaganda network that won't let me lose."

New York Times: "Trump has accepted the invitation to debate Harris."

No he didn't, you fucking hacks. How the fuck does one accept their own invitation? He wasn't invited to shit, he burned his invitation and is demanding Harris play a new game.

Fuck Trump for being a cowardly weasel, and fuck the New York Times for this bullshit narrative.

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[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

Yes, the network that had to pay nearly a billion dollars for pushing a false narrative in order to get Trump elected the last time around is the perfect venue. Oh, and a live Fox News audience? What could be bad about that?

What a joke.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

They’re probably hoping someone in the audience brings a gun.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

What, do we need another Republican to shoot Trump's other ear?

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[-] Warjac@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

She didn't though. This is blatant misinformation.

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[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 49 points 1 month ago

Delete this post for using the word Agrees in the title.

[-] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago

Yes. This is blatant misinformation. Nobody "agreed" to anything. The actual nyt article doesn't even use this word. This post needs to be deleted.

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[-] Nurgle@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Headline so insanely misleading they had to change it lol. NYTimes is such a joke these days

[-] nepenthes@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

I cannot stand his voice; I always end up muting the TV and reading the closed captioning. Those poor people that have to do the live captioning though..

[-] Blackout@kbin.run 19 points 1 month ago

Imagine having to stand on that stage and smell that soiled old man. If he stank I would bring that up before answering every question

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

"I'm sorry can I get a fan up here? I need to be down wind of his diaper. "

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[-] evenglow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

When Trump was in office foreign translators got a ton of shit for doing thier job. So many non English speaking people thought the translators were drunk. That made more sense at the time than The President of the United States of America actually saying the things he said. There was also the time he got laughed at by the entire United Nations.

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 35 points 1 month ago

Trump when Biden is running: "Any time, any place"

Trump when Harris is running: "One specific time, one specific place"

Harris is going to wipe the floor with this guy.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

I agree to NYT giving me 85% of their revenue forever. I agree to that.

[-] match@pawb.social 12 points 1 month ago

gonna look real bad on the NYT if they don't follow through!

[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Fucking hell I'm actually excited. If you had asked me literally a month ago I wouldn't have given a shit and would have laughed if you had told me I'd be interested. Don't get me wrong I was going to vote either way, but man I cannot wait for Harris to slam the shit out of this dirt bag and make a national embarrassment of him. The shit that worked with Biden sure as hell isn't going to fly with Harris.

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[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

It’s definitely a risk for Harris but it’s the only place anyone watching only Fox will see her debate Trump. Not that it’ll change their minds of course, they’re so heavily brainwashed it’s insane.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago

Why it should never happen. Trump could go there, shit his pants, and call Harris all the words, and all republicans will lap it up like the mewling little weird cowards they are.

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Buttigieg has been appearing on Fox News recently and he's been doing a good job dismissing their dishonest narratives and avoiding their traps.

https://youtu.be/SXGpXWbVYSg?si=xBtDe8jWbMdXvmUF

But this isn't Buttigieg, and this isn't a one-on-one interview, so we can only hope if she agrees to this for some reason that she's as prepared as he is.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

OP, you should edit the post to reflect the headline change.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I agree to receive $150,000 from the Trump campaign.

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I don't see why she should accept to be on fox.

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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Okay Trump, you're playing the cards you wish you had, rather than the ones in your hand. A clear sign of denial.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah... agrees with HIMSELF lmao

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I sincerely hope Harris never meets to debate Trump at Fox. Fox will just ambush Harris and edit the footage to make Harris look dumb or insincere. The whole exercise will be pointless because Americans will not get a fair representation of both candidates.

[-] JonsJava@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The title is the original title that NYT published. They updated it after backlash (rightfully so). Please don't report this post again.

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