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[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 86 points 11 months ago

It looks like a screenshot from an obscure found footage movie that they showed in a broom closet at the Cannes film festival that turns out to be the best movie you ever watched

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 40 points 11 months ago
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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sexy. Be safe, remember kids, always use use PPE when committing domestic terrorism!

Edit: fucking lol you guys I support what they are doing. I just think it's funny that it probably fits the technical definition of domestic terrorism even if we don't consider it that.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 89 points 11 months ago

This is not terrorism, it's industrial sabotage, which in the context of the coal industry is based.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 22 points 11 months ago

Terrorism can be based as well. The state uses terrorism all the time and it's fine, and they call any dissent they don't like, no matter how peaceful, terrorism.

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Terrorism has to be violent and induce 'terror' by definition.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 11 points 11 months ago

John Brown was a based terrorist. The British Suffragette movement had a bunch of based terrorists. Mother Jones was based, and as much of a terrorist as most of Al Qaeda (i.e. not personally involved in terrorist attacks, but supporting movements that did engage in terrorism).

All you need is a sufficiently abhorrent status quo and terrorists who are otherwise decent human beings.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

Violence: behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

Specific to Australia, terrorism: Terrorism is defined as "an action or threat of action where the action causes certain defined forms of harm or interference and the action is done or the threat is made with the intention of advancing a political, religious and ideological or group cause".

These climate protesters in the US were convicted of terrorism.

How much do you want to bet this, or actions like this get called terrorism? It fits the definition if you want it to, which is all that matters. Yes, it's bullshit if they call it terrorism, which is why the word needs to have its negative connotation stripped. There have been good terrorists in the past and there will be in the future. The word has no mention of it being done for evil purposes.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Violence: behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

Kill something? That doesn't even make sense unless talking about animals.

It is not commonly accepted that property damage is violence. And in this case it wasn't even property damage, but just a temporary disruption of the operation of the port.

Edit: that Australian legal definition is so hilariously vague that is is clear that who ever wrote that was perfectly aware what they were doing and for what purpose.

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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 19 points 11 months ago

Terrorism has a clear definition. Just because some people use it wrongly doesn't mean it's OK to do so.

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[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 18 points 11 months ago

Things that are incorrectly declared "terrorism" by their opponents? Yes, absolutely. Things that actually fit that definition? No.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago

Protesting isn't terrorism.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Terrorism doesn't have an agreed upon definition, we've charged people with terrorism for occupying a forest, we've also done it for flying a plane into a building. The only unifying factor is a political action the government doesn't sanction.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Which is ridiculous and should be called out as such. Meanwhile we're letting grown men with guns threaten kids over religious ideas.

It's like we all forgot what terrorism actually is.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 11 months ago

It has a clear definition. Maybe look it up some time?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

In the absence of consensus my opinion prevails (because I said so), and I say the thing OP referenced doesn't count as terrorism. Anyone who disagrees with me is, to put it simply, wrong.

(Occupying a forest sure as Hell doesn't count either, by the way -- and that's one I can speak about with particular authority, being a resident of a nearby neighborhood and personal acquaintances with some of the people involved. Frankly, the Atlanta Police Department and Georgia State Patrol are the terrorists here: their actions have not been legitimate enforcing of laws, but rather the acts of a gang trying to claim turf to build their jackbooted-thuggery theme park.)

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

I disagree. The governments try to make all terrorism sound evil, and they call anything they don't like terrorism. The word needs to either stop being used (which isn't going to happen) or associated with as many good and relatively peaceful things as possible as well. As long as the state has a monopoly on terrorism and anyone labeled a terrorist is viewed as evil, the state has all the power on dissent.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Why the fuck would I accept their definition?

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago

Because by using their definition consistently you ridicule and defang the phrase, same as 'queer'. Even by your definition, there have been good terrorists like the abolitionist John Brown, so it is in everyone's best interest to stop acting like terrorism is worse than fascism.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

If you're terrified at the thought of a coal company being mildly inconvenienced, check those perls you're clutching; they might actually be diamonds by now.

[-] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

This is a far cry from terrorism

[-] optissima@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The clear definition of terrorism is the use of violence against civilians for political goals.

[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 15 points 11 months ago

Imagine putting people who are taking up space on the same bar as the murderers of the innocent - sarcasm or not.

You’re delusional at best.

[-] Gormadt 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Impeding the function of necessary infrastructure is pretty bad, especially when it comes to power plants.

The more you know about how the electrical grid works the more serious you realize impeding its function is. And depending on the time of year and the integraty of the grid in that area it can range from serious to really fricking serious.

Edit: I misread the word "port" as "plant".

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 11 months ago

This is about a coal shipping port. The impacts are weeks removed from actual power plant use. All this does is hurt the bottom line of these fossils fuel companies.

[-] Gormadt 5 points 11 months ago

I misread the word "port" as "plant"

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago

If two people doing little more than breaking a fence and climbing into a machine can seriously damage your nation's essential infrastructure, that's more on the government than on those two people. Any actual sabotage and there might not have been an infrastructure left to save.

The electrical grid should be able to handle any one power plant shutting down unexpectedly. Ideally it should be able to handle severed power lines and multiple simultaneous failures, with emergency generators for anything essential. Not even because of sabotage, just because power plants are complex machines that can just unexpectedly fail.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is their low energy season. It's cool enough to have all the windows open and leave the air controls off, which is the major driver of energy usage and energy interruption related deaths. So they actually picked a good time to do it.

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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Won't anyone think of the shareholders!

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Are you implying this is bad or good? I can't tell. It's an unmitigated good thing, by the way

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I think disrupting national infrastructure can be considered terrorism, it just amused me thinking of good guys non violently being "good guy" terrorists

[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 37 points 11 months ago

That is one hell of an attractive couple, for many reasons more than physical lol

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How dare they try to get in the way of corporate profits in a desperate attempt to save the human habitability of Earth from humanity!

3 months out! Don't you get it? All that matters is the next quarter. Humanity can burn and die after I see how much I l've won this quarter at the exploitation casino! A society grows great when old men burn the trees they sit under and tell the crying children to get their own planet to burn.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

The guy in the back has mega goblin vibes in the best way. Wishing them well

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

This is incredibly based ❤️

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 12 points 11 months ago

Where can I buy this album on vinyl?

[-] JATtho@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Go on, now go to nearest nuke power plant and offer free hot tea and cheerful comments. (based, maybe a hint of /s)

edit: Downvoters that apparently didn't quite get what I meant; I'm cheerful for any nuclear power workers that doing a good job. /s was because this would be the opposite of what happended. Well, anyway...

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Why? I'm super not into shutting down our cleanest form of energy when there isn't enough of a cleaner replacement.

[-] Blum0108@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Get all the coal plants first.

[-] ThoranTW@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, all of those Australian nuclear power plants.

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[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

They got the plant but we got the power?

[-] Geobloke@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

That would probably be in China for these guys

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He is so hot though

Edit: okay at the second glance it’s a bit ridicolous stare lol but the whole situation is still hot af

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