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[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago

Not going to celebrate full employment until hiring practices see some noticeable regulation.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

Like non compete clauses being banned? Passed by the FTC apparently down party lines. So, vote for Dems.

[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

That's a start

[-] cannibalkitteh 46 points 6 months ago

Unemployment numbers are bullshit because it specifically drops any that haven't found work in months.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

And then to rub it in, even if you're unemployed, your benefits are garbage, and not need-based.

[-] marx2k@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're talking about the U6 numbers. Those are tracked as well

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

It's almost as if half of these comments are economically illiterate.

[-] marx2k@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Its irritating to see twitter-level bullshit starting to creep in here

[-] cannibalkitteh 3 points 6 months ago

It's irritating to see condescension and people being needlessly smug too.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 6 months ago

Wait there was full employment? That wasn’t my experience over the 10 months I was unemployed. It wasn’t my experience watching the mass layoffs in my field.

I feel like I have been gaslit by the news saying the economy is up and unemployment is down and all I can see around me is the contrary. The past year was infuriating

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

That is shitty, and it probably won't make you feel better, but there were people doing very well during the depression as well. The average is just that, average. Individuals experience wildly different realities.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Well, you are absolutely right that it doesn’t make it better lol. It’s like that “Well, it could be worse” thing people say. The people doing very well during the depression were doing so at the expense of everyone else. I wouldn’t say it’s a good thing for a parasite to be engorged on its host.

I just hate how the media acts like everything is peachy and good as I see another mass layoff knowing my contract won’t be renewed. While I get that this is not at all representative, I did see a big industry fire so many people after record profits.

Where I live, I’ve been seeing a lot of people struggling to get groceries and shit while the market boomed, as supermarkets made record profits. I applied to many hundreds of jobs during a hiring shortage, and I have a few friends who applied to more.

I get these metrics aren’t supposed to represent me, but they do not represent the world around me either. If not that, then who is it supposed to represent?

And to be told that “Bidenomics is good for the economy” might be factual based on these metrics, but to see all those good lines go up and bad lines go down and see everyone around me struggle is super fucking dissonant, and to get that level of gaslighting is a bit insulting.

The economy is complete bullshit and isn’t a metric of the average either.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

There are tons of bad jobs available but no good jobs. In the government's eyes these things are equivalent and that is the problem.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I know. Unemployment is a fucked metric, especially if you have the misfortune to have student loans, a shit job, and live in an expensive area, you’re quite simply fucked.

[-] hashferret@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

Fuck the premise of "full employment." As if having an income that supports you is some binary fact of job or no job. What about shitty job with an exploitative organization the federal government has permitted to become an oligopoly?

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

At my job unless you have 100% availability with 0 restrictions you cannot acquire more than 20 hours at minimum wage plus change. Not a surviving wage.

It’s insane to me that employment isn’t given any nuance.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Because in the past 'a job' was enough. It's not anymore but the boomers and Gen X don't understand that.

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago

Don’t lump X with the boomers. We have had vastly different experiences.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 6 months ago

Yet y'all are pulling similar shit these days...

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

Stow that shit. They’re not the same and you know it. XYZ solidarity matters.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 6 months ago

Then why are they punching down.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

They aren’t. Pick your fights after November.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Congratulations! You are employed, even if you are only working half the normal hours to get a luxurious starvation wage!

I hope you are proud to be a golden star on this country’s incredible employment statistics! Uncle Sam loves ya for it!

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Aaaaand on that note, I think it’s time I play Outer Worlds again.

[-] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

I dunno, most people are probably going to remember his decisions on Gaza much more strongly.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago

Probably not, historically the villain in that story will definitely be Netanyahu... he'd likely get supporting actor credits at best.

I disagree that he'll have a good legacy though, his economic legacy will likely be dwarfed by his lack of action to stop the Supreme Court. History is rarely fair.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 20 points 6 months ago

I'll give you $10 if you can point to Palestine on a map.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

Should I send my PayPal details or is there some other payment method you prefer. I can even show you which bits are Gaza and which bits are the West Bank - it'll be educational!

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

Just say you don't care and move on, coward.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Trump would have been forced to do the same though. It's in the US governments blood to support Israel unconditionally (it's their project after all).

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

I genuinely don’t get how “Trump would have been forced to do the same though” even works as an excuse.

Wouldn’t it be better off if biden risked his career to actually try and prevent the genocide from continuing? Wouldn’t it be better if he even took a small risk to try and actually prevent Netanyahu from crossing one of his many lines? Wouldn’t it be better if we learned from our mistakes in WWII and instead of appeasing the fascists, we did something about fascism? Netanyahu will not be pleased with only Gaza.

To paint it as a necessity, ie “trump would have been forced to do the same,” is genuinely disgusting. This removes all agency the person in power had when they made the decisions that led up to this, and it removes the agency they have to fix this. To say the “most powerful man in the world” was forced to aid and abet a genocide is such a bullshit argument and I really wish people would just realize that.

I think it’s the worst kind of pragmatism to consider it a necessity of geopolitics to just casually cleanse a people. That sort of thing is how you make the evils of this world palatable for people on the news.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah I know it sucks but that's how the government of USA ticks. Also I am not a US resident so your rant sadly was wasted. If you are one though, be the change you want to see.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

I’m well aware that the us government sucks since I live under it.

But saying “that’s just how it works” is a thought terminating cliche.

[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Meh, he’ll probably be remembered more like Truman or Eisenhower

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

If Trump wins, Buchanan is more likely.

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago

Or the fact that he fucked up Afghanistan withdrawal so hard he basically gave the Taliban a billion dollars in weapons, military vehicles and other materiel.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Okay hold on. The equipment being left behind is not something that was avoidable. That's the entire reason we signed it over to the ANA. Anything we actually cared about was already out of the country or air shippable and ready to go. Just on a logistics note, we spent 20 years shipping equipment into the country. There was no way it was all getting removed in 6 months.

And the only way he could have stopped the cascade failure was to foresee it and rapidly deploy several light infantry brigades. On day 1, January 21st, 2020. The Taliban were in a go mode from the day Trump lost the election because they were afraid Biden would go back on the "deal". That's why there was a cascade failure. They got to spend 7 months herding sympathetic politicians into line. And any attempt to walk away from Trump's folly would have triggered their main force coming over the border.

So without being psychic, and without super powers to teleport years worth of logistics, this was always the way it was going to happen. Which is the entire reason Trump put the date past the election.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Gotta love every armchair general that incorrectly thinks they know more than the difference between their asshole and a hole in the ground.

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Yep. Forever and ever, we'll remember him as Genocide Joe. That is his name now and for the rest of all time. What a legacy.

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