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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Vice President Kamala Harris gave the public its first real look into her nascent presidential campaign with a stop at her organization’s headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware on Monday night.

Harris’ first applause line came when she discussed her background as California attorney general and as a courtroom prosecutor.

“In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds,” she said, earning cackles while she beamed, clearly enjoying the joke. “Predators who abused women. Fraudsters who ripped off consumers. Cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump’s type.”

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 287 points 5 months ago

she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he's ever done, starting from trump "university" all the way up to the catastrophic covid response, the ukraine phone calls, the stolen documents, and on and on.

she needs to dial it up to 11 and keep it there. it's time to throw out this "let's take the high road" attitude that's accomplished exactly jack fucking shit over the last too many decades

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 111 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he's ever done

There isn't enough hours left until election day to list all of it.

Also, maybe she should try another tactic than the one that BARELY worked for her predecessor the last time around playing on the much easier "people are experiencing how awful Trump is as president RIGHT NOW" difficulty level.

If she wants to win and win big (which is the only outcome that isn't humiliating and dangerous for democracy), she needs more than "Trump bad". She's going to need some "Kamala good" to energize the base.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago

I'm all for it. Give me something to look forward to, not something to run from, for once this decade

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Fear drives people to the polls though. It's kinda sad but true. So there needs to be a mix.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago

obama didn't win because of "obama good" messaging, he won because people hated bush enough that the got off their ass to vote. similarly, it wasn't "biden good" messaging that made him win.

when more people vote, dems win. that's why republicans are desperately trying to disenfranchise, gerrymander, and otherwise suppress all the votes they can.

"kamala good" campaigning will accomplish nothing. she needs to make the people who are sitting on their ass angry enough to get up and vote. not FOR her, but AGAINST trump

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago

obama didn't win because of "obama good" messaging, he won because people hated bush enough that the got off their ass to vote

Either your knowledge of history is bogus, or you're too young to have experienced the 08 election between Obama and McCain. Obama didn't win 'because people hated bush', he won because he ran on the (now obviously bogus and intentionally vague) message of hope and change.

Obama literally won based on his messaging, so I hope no one listens to you on this matter.

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[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Every fucking time he opens his mouth, she should interrupt him with "prove it". Like, he says the sky is blue? Fucking prove it.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

She got off to a good start already.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago

"Biden may have accidentally called Zelenskyy Putin. At an open meeting, but Trump likely calls Putin 'boss' in hidden ones"

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[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I doubt she wants to spend 12 hours listing off Trump's shitty behavior and crimes. Ain't nobody got time for that.

And anyone who doesn't know about what a piece of shit he is by now probably won't listen to it anyways.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

...listing off Trump’s shitty behavior and crimes.

New filibuster strategy just dropped.

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[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

I'm waiting for the "abortions after birth" challenge to the lying coward treasonous pedophile rapist.

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

There's no low road here. That dude's in a submarine.

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[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Hell yeah. I like to say that when they go low, kick them while they're down there!

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he’s ever done

The problem there is that there are so bloody many valid things to call him out on that it just turns into white noise if you just hit on every single one of them, and the message just becomes "Trump is a shitty person and a shitty president," which has been said a million times already. Focusing in on high-profile offenses is a good way to fix specific examples in the public consciousness.

I'd also suggest something like "The Daily Trump ScumLog." A video series where every day a new example of Trump being shitty gets called out in however much detail the medium allows. Every week, the spiciest gets edited for time and made into a commercial for wider broadcast. This would make it easier to focus in on specific examples, while still emphasizing that the list is Vast.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 111 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Opens Fire On Trump

Glad to see they didn't shy away from using this terminology, considering recent events.

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 80 points 5 months ago
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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 95 points 5 months ago

She said building up the middle class would be a defining goal of her presidency,

Go on Kamala, you are making me hope you might be better than just "not trump." Let's hear some details that will be resistant to the 1% and their greed and get prices under control.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

What about the working poor? That's a much larger group that is much more need of policy changes.

When it comes to economic reform (rather than compression, according to that show with the hand job calculations), from the bottom up is many times more effective than the middle out shit the Dems keep trying.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What about the working poor? That’s a much larger group that is much more need of policy changes.

Um, OK. I'm on board. Are we supposed to argue now?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Nah, I'm good

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

The problem is that the overwhelming majority of the working poor in America consider themselves "middle class". So that's how you have to direct your message if you want it to reach the most people.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Getting low income people to the polls is a big part of this. If a particular group does not vote, then politicians have no incentive to care about them.

https://nlihc.org/resource/new-census-data-reveal-voter-turnout-disparities-2022-midterm-elections

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[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Yeah. This is getting me slightly excited again. I’m an independent voter and have never voted Democrat but I may just well do that this time. Couldn’t stomach Biden but she seems to actually know what the hell she is talking about. Please go after Congressional term limits, tax the crap out of the rich, and reform lobbying with solid game plans. Talk is cheap.

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[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 93 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Honestly, this is the kind of down-in-the-dirt campaigning I had hoped to see from Hillary back in 2016 before she tied an apron on and tried to convince everyone she was a sweet little motherly person. You can't be sweet and kind with someone like Trump. You need to gather up the shit he's piling up around the place and drown his ass in it.

So if Kamala is gonna bring the pain, I'm here for it. Trump needs to be beaten bloody on the pulpit. Because bullies can never handle being bullied themselves. Especially ones as thin skinned and stupid as Trump is.

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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am frustrated that we didn't get to pick our candidate in the primaries, I don't know if Harris is my style. She might be.

But God damn I am looking forward to her going head to head with Trump. She is sharp as hell on her feet.

[-] 4grams@awful.systems 71 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was not a harris booster previously but the biggest complaint I have about her, "Copmala" is actually a significant strength in this election. Then I started reading into her voting record. Combine that with her being a woman in the post roe v wade world, and a woman of color against the most xenophobic party that any of us have experienced and I think she's EXACTLY what we need.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

Convicted felon, rapist and racist.

[-] shadearg@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Harris opted for liable of scamming, sexual abuse, and guilty of fraud on thirty-four counts instead of fraud, rape, and convicted of thirty-four felonies. Great start, but she should not shy from harsh rhetoric.

[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

Finally, someone who is actually willing to treat Trump's many flaws as weakpoints.

[-] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

I want that debate between her and poor Donnie. This woman ia going to roast the shit out of him with her professional experience.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

That’s what’s needed. The older boomer republicans (not die hard MAGA’s, there’s a lot more of the at least rational ones out there) need to see her wipe the floor with him with facts and tough questions he outright lies to, to have a chance of changing their vote.

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

With respect, anyone who would vote for Trump probably isn't worth spending time convincing. Some of them might come around, but if she has one, Kamala's value will be in getting undecided and first time voters to the polls. One of the most popular choices every election is "not going to vote"

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

First woman president is a hail mary in the last months of election year? Sounds like humanity to me.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago

Well, we're a lot more interested now, aren't we?

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

She should point out, repeatedly, that the man has no financial skills at all. Keep hammering how bad he was for workers and the economy in general but still turned a tidy profit for himself. He would actually have more wealth now if he had just invested his inheritance in the S&P (according to Forbes) instead of starting all his cockamamie businesses. The man ran how many casinos into the ground? He went bankrupt in businesses where people say "the house always wins" because the odds are literally stacked in the house's favor.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

She needs to go, repeatedly like, "I mean... He bankrupted a casino... A casino" and, "Speaking of predator, this manchild lied about his associations with Epstein while also flying on his private plane at least 7 times. Would you let him watch your daughter? HELL NO."

[-] joostjakob@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't even let him watch his own daughter

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

All she has to do is keep calling him weak publicly and he will fucking lose it

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[-] Timii@biglemmowski.win 28 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah... That's the stuff!

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago
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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Trump has the impulse control of a squirrel on meth, and an assertive brown woman is pretty much his nightmare (and the sum of all reactionary fears). Trump being made sport of by a minority woman is going to drive him off the rails. The racism and misogyny will be fully unleashed and I suspect he will die by the ugly sword he himself forged.

[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Keep it punchy, don’t waste too much time bashing Trump or else the whole campaign is about him.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Nice. Keep up the good work.

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I’m digging this!! 🍿

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