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[-] criitz@reddthat.com 125 points 3 months ago

Other than after 9/11 when we were lied to about the war, Republicans haven't won the popular vote in my lifetime.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

They've also never won with anyone who isn't Trump in 20 years.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 months ago

Highest unemployment during his term since the great depression

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 months ago

Just hope he makes a repeat performance on that last point

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately losing the popular vote doesn't mean he loses the election. Here's to hoping he loses both.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

He is 100% guaranteed to lose the popular vote by millions. Unfortunately, that doesn't determine whether he wins the election.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

He may very well qualify as the person hated by the most people worldwide in his lifetime.

[-] MenacingPerson@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

World population in 1945 - 2.3 billion

World population in 2024 - 8.2 billion

I'm talking numbers, not percentages (although Trump might still have Hitler beat there as well, thanks to the internet).

[-] MenacingPerson@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I was born decades after Hitler died and I hate him.

Wait, just saw the lifetime thing

Anyways you'd be surprised by the amount of people uncaring of American politics in India and china, or even supporting trump.

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[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 23 points 3 months ago

Any other incumbent president had lost the election?

[-] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 23 points 3 months ago

Most recently, other than Trump, George HW Bush lost the election while incumbent. Prior to that it was Jimmy Carter.

The next most recent person to win the election but lose the popular vote was George W Bush, prior to that is was Harrison back in 1888.

[-] runjun@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, off the top of my head.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago
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[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

I just don't get this. Does the fact that Biden pulled off 4 months before election mean he was never a candidate? 🤔 With that logic, if Trump quits now he is again forgiven as the oldest one? So, whole this news would be bullshit?

[-] golden_calf@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago

Nope, Trump is his parties verified candidate which happens at the convention. Dems have not had their convention yet so Biden was not officially the candidate. Semantics, yes but technically true.

[-] Sunroc@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

That's why reporters would say " presumptive nominee"

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[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 19 points 3 months ago

Trump was officially nominated by the RNC as their candidate. Biden hadn't been nominated by the DNC yet, that was supposed to happen at the conference in a couple weeks. But now that he has pulled out, he will not be nominated and thus not be the official candidate.

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[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Don't forget the smallest inaugural crowds!

[-] CausticFlames@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Isn't biden older though?

Edit: holy damn. wasnt criticizing or trying to point out ANYONE's age, I really dgaf whos older or by how much in terms of election. I was just asking a simple question

[-] banner80@fedia.io 155 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Biden stepped down before getting the official nomination. Trump was nominated by his party last week. That makes Trump officially the oldest candidate nominated by a political party.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 100 points 3 months ago

How was your 48-hour nap?

[-] SuperIce@lemmy.world 78 points 3 months ago

He's not a candidate in this election, and Trump is older now than Biden was during the last election.

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago

For those who struggle with math, that means that Biden is less than 4 years older than trump. The people criticizing Biden's age and not trump's as well never actually gave a shit about Biden's age. Look forward to those same people making up bullshit reasons that Harris is less capable than trump. They know they're full of shit, but it's not about making sense, it's about trying to obfuscate what's pretty clear so that independents and undecideds give up, get frustrated, get confused, and/or get demotivated so that they either stay home or vote 3rd party. There are only two viable parties in this bullshit first past the post system; one of them wants Project 2025 and one of them doesn't. Look at bullet points for what that is and then get your ass to the polls. It's that simple. The only people trying to convince you that it's not that simple are the ones who don't want you to look at those bullet points because it's pretty obvious whether most people are for or against that playbook. It's damning.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

First of all vote.

Second of all, I’m sick of this fall in line and do what we say bullshit.

Fuck you!

I will do what I want and if it happens to fall in line with what you tell me to then you’re lucky I’m even still going to do it.

Fucking authoritarian bullshit is supposed to be on their side

[-] Irremarkable@fedia.io 35 points 3 months ago

"Hey, the other guys are fascist, so if you don't like fascism, you probably should vote against them"

REEEE YOU'RE A FASCIST FOR EVEN MENTIONING THAT MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE A CERTAIN WAY

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[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I never said to fall in line. I said to look up bullet points on what Project 2025 is, look up who is for and who is against it, and get to the polls. I didn't even say who to vote for. Everybody voting will result in the will of the people, and as somebody who likes having a democracy, that's what I'm advocating for. I have my own opinions about which party is more pro democracy, and it's probably pretty obvious to anybody who is paying attention to politics, but I was intentionally vague so that people can come to their own conclusions based on "doing their own research".

But I guess for you, telling people to inform themselves and vote based on factual information makes me an authoritarian. Cool.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The people criticizing Biden's age and not trump's as well never actually gave a shit about Biden's age.

You're right about a lot of us, just not in the way you're implying: I and a lot of others objected to his diminished capacity rather than his age itself.

Berne's a little under a year older than Biden and sharper than people two decades younger.

Nancy Pelosi is a year or two older still, and not showing anywhere near as stark signs of decline as Biden is.

Come to think of it, the media harped on and on about Bernie's age in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries without ever mentioning the health of Hillary or Biden. Did you come to Bernie's defense in 2020 since he's in better health than both, heart stent and all, and less than a year older than Biden?

Look forward to those same people making up bullshit reasons that Harris is less capable than trump

Nobody ever said less capable than Trump. There's several orders of magnitude between "not fit" and "as unfit as Trump". That Biden was behind in spite of being a much less awful candidate and president was down to Trump's religious cult as well as media gaslighting.

Personally, I'm no fan of Kamala but I believe that, unlike Biden, she'll beat Trump if nominated, so you won't hear me calling for her ouster like I did for the one who was literally incapable of doing the job.

Btw, notice how my comment is much more easily readable than your wall of text in spite of being of similar or greater length?

Breaking up your points into paragraphs takes literally a few seconds and improves the legibility of any long comment immensity.

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Yes, Biden clearly showed signs of losing his mental acuity. I didn't really believe it until I saw it in the past couple of months. But a lot of conservatives weren't really articulating acuity, they were saying he was too old.

Age in general is a concern to me as well because these old fucks don't understand how different the world is now compared with 30-50 years ago. Wealth is also a concern to me because wealthy, privileged people haven't struggled like average Americans have and/or do. Congress needs more people like Katie Porter who understand what it's like to make difficult home finance decisions and be thankful that there's even any semblance of choice involved.

Yes, I was fully on board with Sanders in 2016 and 2020. I also liked Warren. One day in the future, maybe Buttigieg or Jeffries. It's exciting to speculate on all of the rising, younger Democratic stars.

I have my issues with Kamala Harris, but I think that she's probably the best person to run against trump in 2024 especially with only 3.5 months (which sounds like plenty of time to pick anybody to me, but I'm not qualified to assess that). She's not my favorite, but I'm more excited about her than I would've been for Biden.

My only real concerns for Harris running are what the media spoonfeeds to the gullible masses and what the October surprise will be this time. There's a part of me that wishes Biden would resign just to take away the talking point of "trump has been president and she hasn't; is she capable of running the country?" Plus we would already have had a couple months of a woman running the country before the election, so people could see that that's not an actual thing to be concerned about.

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[-] Kamikazimatt@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago

Yes but he backed out and it says oldest candidate.

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[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

this one does require a "small" amount of "critical thinking"

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[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago

He's the oldest living Republican former president.

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just Trump again giving unwelcome kisses to his stage partner, but when women accuse him of the same thing conservatives don't believe it. He's showing you who he is.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago
[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 months ago

Impeachment is not the same as being removed from office. It is the first step to the process however. Impeachment is the bringing of charges against an official in office. Once charges are brought, a trial must be held on the Senate with the Chief Supreme Court Justice presiding. If the trial ends in a conviction, the result is removal from office. However, the Chief Justice for nearly the past 20 years is a staunchly conservative man appointed by the 2nd bush administration in 2005.

Impeachment was never really a threat to Trump while in office. Just a way for Congress to tell the president that they know the bad shit he's doing and they don't like it. As long as the supreme court remains absolutely stacked with conservative appointees, there will never be a removal of office of a favored Republican president.

[-] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

Are you very young, or not American?

[-] lemmyhavesome@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

He sure grabbed that flag by the pole.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

- Russian pee pee tape boy

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