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[-] noodlejetski@geddit.social 215 points 1 year ago
[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago

This was the original cyberpunk-transhumanist message. Not "cybernetics will destroy your soul" but "corporations own your body, or worse parts of your body"

[-] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago

That's a new hell-on-eath I wasn't aware of. Yikes.

[-] Coeus@coeus.sbs 69 points 1 year ago

A good argument for open source

[-] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Terrifying. No government bailout for improving people's life quality...

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[-] FIST_FILLET@kbin.social 137 points 1 year ago

imagine physically embedding the fucking musk into your brain, VOLUNTARILY. i can't imagine anything worse in the world

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

People are still driving Teslas right now. Pretty much the same in my book. You're trusting your life to a proven moron.

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 year ago

Elongated Muskrat has very little to do with the inner works of the company now. Even in the heights of his involvement, by his own account, his input was tangential at best, like "we make expensive car now, use this money to make cheaper car" and "we call it x because x is the best name ever"

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 118 points 1 year ago

Musk is doing more to make people realize how garbage capitalism is than Marx ever could.

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[-] astral_avocado@programming.dev 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Neuralink is an excellent advancement for brain science and it is greatly going to help disabled people and those with little function left over their bodies. It's okay to celebrate this technology while also hating musk.

Like SpaceX, they've both been excellent ventures that he so far hasn't ruined (probably thanks to the people he delegates to). Just because it's fashionable to hate him for how he's absolutely fucked over Twitter (which i'll remind everyone we've always hated and agreed is bad, use Mastodon instead) doesn't mean his other companies largely spearheaded by others, and their results, are also bad.

That's not even to mention that the kind of dystopian technology people are imagining isn't anywhere close to what the Neuralink device is actually capable of. What everyones fearmongering over is still just science fiction. It's just barely able to interpret brain signals, it's not as powerful as everyone makes it out to be.

2nd edit: forgot what instance I'm on, this comment probably ain't going to do well lol

[-] stingpie@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

The big issue I have with brain chips is longevity. How long until the electrodes degrade? When will the chips fail? Once they fail, will it be fail safe or fail deadly? Also, what will be the power source? Will it use inductive power, or battery power? They are both awful options. What if the chip overheats? The implementation is the real question here, but neuralink refuse to give any answers because it proprietary.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 year ago

I want to thank Facebook for making it blatantly obvious to us that we should never get any brain implants. They'll definitely use them to read your thoughts and push ads straight into your consciousness. Oh, and you'll probably have to pay a subscription.

[-] atyaz@reddthat.com 51 points 1 year ago

Your tinnitus will get progressively louder until you pay your bill

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Hello Satan. I didn't realize you use Lemmy.

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[-] crow@beehaw.org 71 points 1 year ago

I’m not putting anything in me that’s not foss. I worry for the tech illiterate though when they eventually adopt this idea.

[-] abraxas@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

I agree, I love the idea of a brain chip, but not if someone can change licensing terms on something that's INSTALLED in me.

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[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 65 points 1 year ago

There'e not enough knowledge and connectivity in the entire internet that could convince me to ever put a connection directly to my mind online.

[-] nicerdicer@feddit.de 55 points 1 year ago

I'm sure these implants will give much needed ease to patients who suffer frem tremors like parkinson and other neurological diseases. But the things I'm mostly concerned about are:

  • Will health insurance pay for the implant in a one-time-payment? Will it be a subscription model? What happens when you can't pay your subscription? Will it be shut off?
  • Will the implant be operated through firmware (like a pacemaker) or software, which reqires frequent updates? If so, will there be - like computer software - "new features" implemented ("With version 2.0 you will be able to share your Neuralink experience with other Neuralink users. Your data may not be leaked, pinky promise."
  • What if a certain mentally unstable CEO throws a tantrum that will affect the performance of the Neuralink implant negatively? Will there be any legal protection from such thing?
[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

The thought that frightens me even more (although I am not a neurologist) is that if this is installed in children, and the neural pathways for the child's basic functions are formed to pass through that implant, removing the implant will render the child unable to think.

[-] alizard@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

Oh god, new horrors just dropped

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[-] Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago
[-] atyaz@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago

I accidentally uninstalled the visual cortex drivers and now I can't use my eyes to reinstall, any help is appreciated

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[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago

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[-] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

Fox Viewers: 'Don't get vaccinated because there are brain controlling microchips hidden in the jab.' Also Fox Viewers: 'I can't wait to get one of Elon's brain chips to own the libs!'

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, who did Elon have to fuck to get FDA approval for a brain chip that's killed numerous test subjects.

Edit: Just a friendly reminder that ublock, sponsorblock, newpipe x sponsorblock, libretube, youtube piped exist

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[-] meldroc@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago

A long time ago I read some cyberpunk novel, and one of the characters had an ocular implant that got infected with malware that flashed spam ads for Indian brothels in his vision 24/7, even with his eyes closed, until he went completely postal.

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[-] sagrotan@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

There comes the time you have to root your own brain and install CyanogenMod 23.0 "BrainIac" on it, maybe "TorView" and "OpenMath" too. I recommend "FreeTaste 2.0" as an addon.

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[-] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

On one hand I'm excited for what the tech can do for medical purposes and future applications... On the other hand I'm terrified on what governments and corporations have in mind for it, cause I guarantee it will not be good

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

Looking forward to the eventual open source/Linux version of this lol.

My brain runs Arch BTW

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[-] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

You mean the FDA approved of lobotomizing a select few of desperate people to satiate the narcissistic impulses of its founder. Anyone else wanna take a ride in this plastic submarine???

[-] WNichArk@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Uh, it's a "submersible" and it's not plastic, it's throwaway expired carbon fiber from Boeing...

[-] Kalkaline@lemmy.one 34 points 1 year ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60416058 related. It's going to be a subscription service and Musk is going to have his fanboys hooked in for the short life of the company.

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[-] HippieSplash@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

As someone who suffers daily from a traumatic brain injury 5 years ago that's caused me to become physically disabled and cognitively declined, I'm super excited about this.

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[-] tjaden@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 year ago
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[-] Granite@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if Muskrat weren’t involved, this still has a hell no from me. You leave me and the voices alone.

Although Star Wars cybernetic hands would be dope.

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[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I think of this as being straight up horrifying. This isn't exciting, this is going to be dystopian nightmare fuel. It's not hard to imagine this being imbedded into human beings against their will too, like prisoners in the US.

I would rather be a Borg, at least they were motivated by a collective good will to move to perfection, not puppets of a dying capitalist state and it's related ideology.

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[-] Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 year ago

Can't wait to sell my excess brain power to crypto miners

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[-] object_Object@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Yeah nothing is even going close to my brain unless the hardware itself is open source

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 30 points 1 year ago

Just wait until it's not technically mandatory, but you can't do your taxes, find a job or participate in society without beaming ads straight to your brain.

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[-] camillaSinensis@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Brain-computer/machine interfaces are really interesting when treating conditions like paralysis or Parkinson's disease, and to a certain extent severe psychiatric conditions if you count deep brain stimulation for e.g. severe OCD. I don't think we'll be anywhere near sending detailed multisensory content like ads into people's brains for a long time though. That's so far outside the scope of what brain stimulation can do right now, it's really just scifi.

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[-] WeebLife@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Remember that episode in Futurama where they got personalized ads fed to their brains while they slept?..... 😔

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