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Prosecutors alleged that when Grayson and his partner responded to Massey’s home, Grayson allowed her to move a pot of water heating on the stove, but as she set it on a counter, Grayson then “aggressively yelled” at Massey over the pot and pulled his 9mm pistol.

Massey then asked what the deputies were doing, to which Grayson responded, “Getting away from your hot, steaming water.”

“I rebuke you in the name of Jesus,” Massey said twice, according to the documents reviewed by NBC News.

Grayson responded, “I swear to God. I will shoot you right in your f------ face.”

When Grayson drew his service weapon and ordered her to drop the pot, she let go, then crouched below a line of cabinets, and declared “I’m sorry” before being shot in the face, prosecutors said.

Grayson did not render aid to Massey and discouraged his partner from getting his medical kit because he thought her injury was too severe, according to the court document filed in support of keeping Grayson in custody without bond.

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 83 points 3 months ago

Grayson had been with the Sangamon County Sheriff’s Department about 18 months after serving as an officer with several other police agencies in central Illinois for about seven years before that.

Im going to go out on a limb and say that maybe he had a pattern of behavior that caused him to precinct hop that instead should have led to his being banned from being a cop in the first place. So if I were the lawyers for the family, I’d be looking there and adding other policies agencies to the list being sued.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 59 points 4 months ago

do people become cops because they know they're too fucking stupid to do anything else? or just because it means they get to shoot black people? or because they have a severe inferiority complex?

[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 54 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago

that doesn't surprise me in the slightest

[-] chknbwl@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

D) All of the above

Pigs are just a fraternity, intellect has zilch to do with any function of their agency. Most are in it because they think it makes them look cool. Others join because it makes them feel powerful and superior to others. Then there are genuine evil people, like the above shitbucket, who wear the badge specifically to hold the firearm.

Even the ones that join to protect their "community" are, more often than not, passively protecting a status quo instead.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 months ago

this woman called 911 for HELP, and the fucking pussy cop felt threatened because she had a pot of hot water?

the problems run much deeper than the bottom rung chimpanzees they hire for beat cops. this douchenozzle should have never been hired in the first place. by anyone.

[-] ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Not to dilute the ACAB vibe but a couple of quarts of boiling water thrown on you will irrevocably and painfully change your life for the worse for years to come.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 14 points 3 months ago

If only there were some way to avoid a thrown pot of water, like, I dunno, maybe by teleporting out the door? Calling the eagles to get carried 6 feet, and out of range? Using the freeze-breath super-power? Sprouting housefly wings and flitting away? Sadly, there's absolutely nothing realistically that a buff, 6'3", 220lbs. cop could possibly have done to move himself out of danger of flung hot water, 72 long inches away, so shooting her in the face (after she put it down) was of course the only proportionate response. /s

[-] chknbwl@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Not to dilute the ACAB vibe but a couple of quarts of boiling water thrown on you will irrevocably and painfully change your life for the worse for years to come.

Idk being shot in the face sounds just a little worse. That might just be me though.

You could always, you know, ask them to step away from it.

[-] ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

Let's not forget the extra-added bonus of "Badge Bunnies/holster sniffers" if you're into that sort of thing

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago
[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had considered joining the police here in the UK. The pay is okay, the pension is fantastic, and it felt like something you'd do to help people. For all the shit police get, when you're in a horrible situation like a family member dying at home, or a violent break-in, having the police there to help pick the pieces up and guide you can be great.

The problem is that the reality of the job is endless paperwork, having hardly any training for the job that you do, having a public that (rightly) hates you, and you're put in positions that you can't really win.

IMO the police shouldn't be defunded. They should get far more funding, in return for FAR more training. Their unions should be responsible for ensuring their members are fully trained and able to act on their training, leaving the role if they can't. Those that can't keep up should be retrained in other fields, like mental health work, the law, or social support.

But to answer your question, I think those that don't join the police see the hypocrisy of joining a force that actively does the opposite of what you want the police to be. Those that do are ignorant to it, or apathetic to its presence (e.g. not all cops).

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 months ago

Piece of garbage.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 months ago

This was a fucking execution.

[-] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 28 points 4 months ago

Wow, loss of life over hot water. What the fuck 😤

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Collosal snowflake

[-] newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 3 months ago

All cops are stupid reactionary cowards who have a superiority complex exacerbated by the fact that they are just cognizant enough to know that they are stupider than people around them.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

I hate that Hollywood propaganda has build cops up as heroes. They are bullies or cowards all of them.

The guys partner if he was a true hero wouid have immediately tased this animal and arrested him.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

All cops are stupid reactionary cowards who have a superiority complex exacerbated by the fact that they are just cognizant enough to know that they are stupider than people around them.

I feel like we could shorten that to way less words... maybe an abbreviation that people would recognize. ;)

[-] CTDummy@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“I swear to God. I will shoot you right in your f------ face.”

What is it with these sort of cops talking like this. It’s one thing if it was an actual perp who might have a weapon and moving for one, wild shit may come out your mouth but at someone’s house while they have a kettle? The actual fuck. Like isn’t it a literal line out of super troopers??

Also, the hell are cops with skull tattoos on their forearm doing wearing a uniform. Get some admission standards or just any standards for your police force already god damn.

[-] Glifted@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

This is all of them. This is who they are now.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Because people with skull tattoos are obviously bad guys. There are documentaries about that. Or was it bad action movies? Ahhh same thing apparently

[-] CTDummy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

That’s pretty obviously, not what I mean. I have tattoos so I understand their meaning can span beyond basic symbolism. That said cops here can’t have certain tattoos or tattoos above their collar. I would imagine that having a pile of skulls tattooed on your forearm may (or at least should) detract from your chances at a job that’s public service based. Shit there are jobs that don’t trust you with a gun that you’d probably not get.

[-] laserm@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

What the fuck is wrong with some people?

[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Lmao this is so fucking pathetic and unsurprising.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

And to think... come this November, you might have one of these pigs for president.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

The article I saw right above this one was "Donald Trump says he'd like to take Kim Jong-un to a baseball game, as he brags about their friendship"

So yeah, we don't have a lot of options.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

US politicians do far worse than taking Kim Jong-Un to baseball games - have you seen the smorgasbord of death, torture and murder they treat Israel to?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yes, and Trump would hand Israel nukes, or MOABs, with permission to, and I quote, "finish the job."

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Both within American borders, and outside of them, the cruelty of the Republican part is ceaseless. The US and Palestine aren't the only places that Republican rule can make worse.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Israel already has nukes, Clyde - thanks to the US, France and Germany - and Israel already has permission to "finish the job" as far as the US is concerned. The problem for Israel is not that Israel doesn't have "permission" but that the IDF is a failed military that cannot "finish the job" - even with nukes.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'm aware they have nukes the way Japan does. They aren't fully assembled. As far as finishing the job is concerned, they don't seem to need nukes, they're just genociding them and starving them. Trump is just so damn nuke happy he wanted to nuke a hurricane.

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