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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Cynthia “Cyn” Carranza meticulously scavenged for a shady parking spot in the car she called home.

The overnight custodian at Disneyland has to sleep during the day - a difficulty for anyone, let alone when you're living in your car with two dogs. Ms Carranza says she makes $20.65 an hour (about £15.99) at the park but last summer, she couldn't afford rent in this Southern California city where the average apartment can run more than $2,000 (about £1,550) a month.

Ms Carranza, like others who work at the park, detailed to the BBC the financial hardships that come with working at what’s supposed to be the “Happiest Place on Earth”. About 10,000 union workers at Disneyland - the first of 12 parks created around the globe - are threatening to strike over the wages and what they say are retaliatory anti-union practices.

Hundreds of workers protested outside the park this week, with an array of signs and pins showing Mickey Mouse's gloved fist in defiance. 

“Mickey would want fair pay,” workers chanted outside Disneyland near the park's gates. 

They voted almost unanimously to authorise strike action on Friday, just days before union contract negotiations for workers are set to resume.

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[-] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 6 months ago

To show how bad $20/hour is (some people might think that is a lot due to local situation) someone paying $2000/month rent should have $6666/month gross income (using 30% rule). That equates to just under $40/hour at 40hours/week.

They are literally making half what they need to live.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 29 points 6 months ago

Part of the problem is that the main anti-Disney political coalition doesn't want to address the local housing crisis; they want the region to go back to being a suburban sprawl.

You could easily build dense housing in the area that meets the balloon test, but Disney doesn't want to push it and the anti-coalition doesn't want it either.

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[-] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 80 points 6 months ago

The problem here is two-fold, I think. Disneyland can 100% afford to pay a lot more, for one, but also the rent in California is insanely inflated and needs to come down.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

It's like these people are getting fucked at both ends

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[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 79 points 6 months ago

As a former Disney cast member, I wholly support this protest and I truly hope they strike.

In worked from 2008-2016 and started at $9.05/hr. We got 2% a year in raises, but in that time new hires would start at higher wages and they wouldn't match the employees who had been there to the new employees wage. Brand new employees would make more than those that had been there years.

When Anaheim had a ballet measure to raise the minimum wage they raised a ton of cast members wages to $3 less than the measure in hopes they could discourage people to vote for it. Fortunately, the measure passed. However, during this period they didn't retain the yearly raises, everyone was raised to the exact same wage. Those who had been there 30 years (no exaggeration) made exactly the same as new hires.

They've gotten hostile to their employees and the "perks" that employees for have been slowly stripped away. Each year getting slightly worse. Which is a problem because new hires don't know how much better it used to be so they don't know what to demand anymore.

I knew cast members that used to live 6 or 8 people to a two bedroom apartment. Most worked multiple jobs. Many of the entertainers who play as the characters ended up injured from wearing the Mickey and other character costumes. Multiple who had to have surgery to treat those injuries.

They have let standards fall, hard. The parks aren't what they used to be and literally the only thing keeping them together is the cast. They try so fucking hard to bring the magic to guests each and every day. They have been kneecapped by management though. IMO, of all "attractions" at the parks, the cast are the best. And the one that management should be investing in the most. They are the differentiator between Disney and Knott's Berry Farm, Universal Studios, and Six Flags. However leadership has constantly worked to move interactions from Cast Members to their half baked app.

Understand that all these cast members do it because they love bringing the magic to the guests. They endure shitty pay, shitty management, and injury for the guests. They care so much about making the public and tourists happy. They deserve so much more.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

I need to know more about "the Mickey" and the surgeries it caused.. was it too top heavy or something?

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

That's part of it, and the way it would sit on the shoulders. Lots of neck and spine issues. Then the hands would lead to repetitive stress injuries for some of their motions.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago

Ms Carranza says she makes $20.65 an hour

Makes sense. They couldn't afford to pay her more.

Disney Parks has just released its fourth quarter and full-year earnings, posting a record $32.5 billion in revenue for fiscal 2023, which ended September 30, 2023.

https://blogmickey.com/2023/11/disney-parks-posts-record-32-5-billion-revenue-in-2023/

Disney has a market cap or net worth of $174.83 billion as of July 19, 2024. Its market cap has increased by 5.72% in one year.

https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/dis/market-cap/

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 54 points 6 months ago

You don't understand. If they paid her and the rest of the employees what would be a living wage, they would make only $32.4 billion. See? It can't be done.

[-] macaro 31 points 6 months ago

I ran the numbers and it’s actually $31.46 billion. But you’re not far off.

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

We really need to eat the greedy. They're human fucking waste.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago

I saw something recently about composting them instead. I like that idea.

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[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

I thought you pulled that number out your ass.

Then I did the math. I really am hungry for some rich right about now.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Why would their revenue be lower...?

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

That does not sound like the greatest place on earth to work.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

They call it The Happiest Place on Earth. Having been there as a non-employee, it was not even the happiest place in Southern California. In fact, there are a very large number of extremely overstimulated and entirely not happy children.

And they wish you a magical day as you are dropped off at your car where you get to have a very non-magical drive down a freeway in Anaheim.

And that's for the people who pay them.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 32 points 6 months ago

2 dogs? Living in a car? How??? Why??????

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

"I don't have enough money to pay rent... I've got an idea! I would get a dog!"

[-] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago

Or… “I work hard and live modestly in a small apartment with two dogs that I love. Oops, the landlord just jacked up my rent and I can no longer afford it, and the multi-billion dollar company I work for refuses to allow pay increases to help their low-paid employees deal with inflating prices. Now, I have to live in my car briefly while I figure this situation out.”

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

"briefly"

Two years

[-] Steve@startrek.website 20 points 6 months ago

Reading the other comments, apparently its a human right to keep a dog no matter what your living situation and suggesting they give it up is evil.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 38 points 6 months ago

We get it, you have no empathy, neither for homeless people nor even for dogs.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Do you think those dogs have appropriate living conditions? Seems to me like you're the one that has no empathy for them.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Very possibly, better than the alternative in most cities...

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[-] Steve@startrek.website 8 points 6 months ago

Do the dogs sit in the car all day? In orlando florida? Doesnt that normally kill the dogs? How is it possible for 2 dogs to live in a car while their owner is at work?

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 points 6 months ago

Disneyland is in Anaheim, California. It is a dry heat.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 6 months ago

Oh I missed that. Its fine then.

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[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Being homeless might be the reason she got the dogs.

Homeless women are vulnerable and dogs provide protection.

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[-] bappity@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

big corporation under-pays workers, absolute shocker.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 18 points 6 months ago

Don't worry front line workers. The C-Suite and the shareholders appreciate your sacrifice to allow them to make more money.

This is was workers need to strike and form unions.

[-] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There are so many seasonal tourist businesses in the US. Many of these places are either very remote or extremely popular. These businesses need seasonal workers for 3-8 months. The vast majority require housing.

Many of these businesses provide. The smaller ones may have a room or cabin. Larger ones may have salvage travel trailers and shanty apartments. In remote places the only store nearby is the company store. If a worker's vehicle breaks they're effectively trapped.

Back to the 1800s, I guess.

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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

this is becoming normal for most in the US

hardly anyone here makes over $20 an hour and it shows that people are unable to afford to go to work due to subpar pay

know a plumbing business in our area that pays its employees less than $15 an hour and that is considered good pay in this area with housing and food as high as the rest of the country

and the US has not had a proworker president ever

Biden threatened the last workers to protest for better with the threat of losing their livelihoods

cost of vehicle ownership is astronomical these days how could anyone in the US afford both housing and a vehicle with average US pay

know people skipping insurance and registration fees due to low pay and high cost

all this has to come to a head at some point

going to a grocery store that is not fully stocked and only the self-checkouts are open because the pay is so low no one can afford to work is more than normal now in the US

thanks Trump and Biden for making the US a better place for the elites

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Yes, this is about Trump and Biden and not the Walt Disney Company. We can't possibly use this thread to talk about how awful the Walt Disney Company is and how they are to blame for this because they could afford to pay their workers more if they wanted to. That might be too relevant.

[-] ImADifferentBird 14 points 6 months ago

The Walt Disney Company is awful, true, but do not make the mistake of thinking they are uniquely awful. This is every company. This is the world we live in. The whole damn system is rotten to the core, and the people with the power to fix it either do nothing to do so or deliberately make it worse for their own benefit.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

This is a story uniquely about them. Biden and Trump do not need to be brought into it. The person I replied to tries to make everything about this election and especially Biden.

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[-] DessertStorms 12 points 6 months ago

going to a grocery store that is not fully stocked and only the self-checkouts are open because the pay is so low no one can afford to work is more than normal now in the US

Look at the upside - easier to shoplift.

On a more serious note though, this is all a feature, not a bug. As the meme goes - everything they threatened would eventually happen under communism is already happening under capitalism. At it will never get better until capitalism is abolished and a hierarchy free, horizontal society is built on its ashes.

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[-] BuckenBerry@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

“Mickey would want fair pay,”

Are we sure about that?

One of his best friends is related to a billionaire.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

If I had to live in a car, I wouldn't have two dogs.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

She probably had the dogs before she ended up in the car. And yes, expecting her to give them up is asking way too much of her before anyone suggests it.

[-] DessertStorms 32 points 6 months ago

In other words you think it's reasonable to criticise homeless people for not giving up and abandoning their companions and dependants, who provide comfort and love in the bleakest of times, as soon as times got hard.. Classy.

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

I would criticize anyone wasting money on an animal while living so close to their means that homelessness could conceivably be in their near future. Sometimes you have to make choices you don't want to; she probably never had the means to support those animals. The argument isn't that she should get rid of them, it's that she never should have had them in the first place. Animals are expensive, and I also wonder what she could do now if she had all the money she spent on them over the years of ownership.

To be clear, I'm not advocating for $20/hr being considered a livable wage. Disney should be ashamed. Anyone working a full time job should be able to afford a pet if they want one. I just also believe in personal accountability.

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

she probably never had the means to support those animals

Speculation, and baseless at that.

she never should have had them in the first place

Things change, bud. I have a stable job now, have had it for over five years, but I might not in a month or a year. Dogs live for longer than that.

I think a pretty good rule of thumb is that if you find yourself speculating about someone else's life or the future, there's probably a lot you don't know, so dial down the judgement.

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[-] DessertStorms 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I just also believe in personal accountability.

Something something bootstraps!

Jfc.. 🤦‍♀️

You could have saved yourself a little typing and just said you're a wilfully ignorant classist bootlicker... 🙄

Careful though, just like the majority of the population, you're barely a missed pay check or two, or one big accident/disaster, away from being homeless yourself.. That despicable attitude of yours may very well come back to bite you in your self cantered unempathetic ass sooner than you think..

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[-] Frank_weens@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I think everyone deserves a chance at having a loving companion, even poor people.

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