France and Germany already hit their quorum. Now five more member states need to hit 100%. And the main goal of reaching 1 million of course.
Germany shows 96.45% for me. So not quite there yet.
That's only the online votes. If you add votes collected by other means, you get more than the threshold.
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2023/000006_en
And those numbers are (slightly) out of date
Meanwhile, France almost at 200%.
I only do this as I like to learn new things myself and appreciate if people correct me.
The title is wrong. It should be “A European…” rather than “An European…”.
The way you can decide which one to use is by looking at the proceeding words first syllable sound. If it has a vowel sound you use an if it doesn’t, then you use a. It’s important to note it’s vowel sound and not just a vowel.
Examples:
Thank you for the correction. I wasn't sure (but also to lazy to check)
I've edited the title
No problem. Thank you for being receptive to my comment.
Sometimes people get mad, and I don’t get why as I love to learn new things and it may help other people who may be non-native speakers to learn the quirks of English.
Here are some possible reasons for people getting mad if you're really wondering why it happens:
I'm not saying you did any of those things and I'm right there with you on learning but the knee-jerk reactions often do have a reason behind them. There's also the whole issue with how polarized social media is these days and the willingness to listen or admit to a mistake can be a difficult thing to stomach ("it's a sign of weakness").
I hope that helps!
Thanks for this. It really does help to understand the reasons.
I would say that I always try to preface my unsolicited advice to try and convey that I am not shitting on people or being condescending, as I did here. I do this so people can feel comfortable that I’m doing it to be nice and without any malice at all. I know you said I didn’t do any of these things, I just wanted to explain my thought process.
I get it. At the end of the day web is a vast space and people will have different experience functioning here, all we can do is try to convince others we're genuine and do our thing. I'm just happy whenever a positive interactions like your and OP's happen.
Sorry, native speaker and language teacher here and I disagree. This is dialect dependent, but in my dialect at least, it’s the glottal stop at the beginning of a vowel sound that triggers it. Saying “an European” for me is like saying “an yellow.”
I’m confused as you say you don’t agree, but also using an European doesn’t sound right, which is right as it should be a European as European starts with a yoo sound rather than a vowel sound.
It would be a yellow as yellow also starts with a consonant sound.
That’s because I read your comment wrong 😅
No harm no foul. 😊
Sadly i'm deaf, so i can't use sound to correct myself 🥹😭
I sh4uld meet an english deaf and usk them how do they manage those grammar rule. Their answer will be pretty fun :3
Done
Same
I convinced my parents to sign it
Thank you for sharing! Now we need to spread to the countries where this position is still not very known.
Portugal and Ireland only have about 500 signatures each for example, we can do better!
good point. I've created a couple more crossposts
English, so can't sign :( rooting for you all over the channel!
So you have to find something else to do with your rich then.
I vote for eating them
Are you sure? I mean with what they say about British cuisine
Am improvement then?
Same, hope it catches on! Wish I could add my signature
Done and shared where I could.
If this is supposed to be about the EU, why is the post in french?
Only a small fraction of the EU speaks that.
If you click the link, the site will automatically be translated into your language. But since the organisers are French, it will preview in French.
I agree, that seems like an oversight
Doesn't translate anything for me
weird. Must be a bug.
You can change the language manually using the drop-down in the top right
That's true for basically any European language though, right?
And English is no longer the obvious lingua franca since the UK left
I think English is still the most obvious choice as most people speak it as a second language. In fact I would want that EU wide kids learn English from grade 1 on and ideally we’d be all bilingual in a couple decades.
And the website's called tax-the-rich.eu, not imposez-les-richous.eu
The correct translation should be "Décapiter les riches" if it was french Citizens' initiative. /s
I think I've already signed this at some point last year or is this a new attempt?
No, it's been running for some time (that's why I didn't call it a new initiative). So it's probably the one you signed before.
You can just try. It will tell you if you already signed.
These kinds of things should be handled on a national rather than an EU level. I don't like the idea of giving the EU further taxation rights - that is not its purpose.
On the contrary, I feel as though a tax like that can only be done at EU level rather than a national level if it wants to have any efficiancy. The ultra-rich are not bound by the same rules of territoriality as the rest of us, and would have no problem moving to another country in the EU if a local tax displeases them.
In fact, this has been a key argument put forward by right-wing politicians against high-wealth tax on a national level for quite some time, that they would flee the country the first chance they get. But by registering it at the EU level, the million/billionaires won't have anywhere to run if they still want to enjoy the benefits of being in the EU :)
It can still be achieved via international agreement, the EU can serve its intended purpose by fostering such an agreement, and then codifying it later.
My key issue with it is the slow removal of national sovereignty and the movenent of decisionmaking further away from the voter. This is the exact kind of thing that has led to the EU repeatedly trying to force through impopular proposals that infringe on the rights and privacy of citizens such as chat control.
The EU needs to focus on its roots as a common market and united front for foreign policy, not on becoming an abomination of bureaucracy.
For the first part, I agree with you. An international agreement, like what was done for baseline multinational taxes, would be preferable. However, given the sway many million/billionaires hold over smaller (autocratic) countries, I don't hold out much hope on that front, unfortunately.
As for your second point on moving decision making away from the voter, this is ideology. The EU parliement needs to vote on every text, and members are directly elected by EU citizens. For me (in France), I feel as though the EU has been much more respectful of democratic pressure than our national institutions (point in case, all the chat control proposals so far have been dismissed, where as our president has passed many suveillance and other highly unpopular laws unopposed).
There is certainly a point that can be made regarding regarding the fact that less populous countries send so few EU MEPs that they don't feel that they hold much sway ovet the EU, and we clearly need to find a better system than we do now.
As for your last point, though I understand your position, I thouroughly disagree. There is no such thing as economics -let alone foreign policy- without politics, and it's something that was clearly meant to be with the establishment of the EU Comission, Council, and Parliement. There are many political topics that are difficult to being up on each single national levels, but that can cause positive effects in each EU country if not around the world (the so called 'Brussels effect', notably with standardisation of plugs, the creation of carbon emmission roofs for cars, or even GDPR).
(btw I'm not one downvoting you, I think your point is interesting and needs to be discussed :) )
One more problem that at least I see with some EU-wide wealth tax is that EU doesn't have a good track record of being able to really consider thoroughly the differences between nations. Decisions are made by the largest countries in the end and they don't really know what, for example, a million euros buys you in Estonia, Sweden, Spain, Bulgaria, Hungary etc.
I would actually be more welcoming to some generic EU tax, but these kinds of "let's tax the wealthy people" taxes are hard to do on the EU level since "wealthy" has so many different numbers across the EU area.
Taxes are also a market. Billionaires shop for the country that will tax them less.
An EU-wide tax scheme is acting like a single market.
Thanks, signed.
Thanks for the info! I just signed
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