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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

Edit: tell me this doesn't sound stupid

There is only two types of jobs:

Doing something someone else doesn't want to do

Or

Doing something a specific other person can't do

The only thing I can think of that someone other than myself can't do is piss my wife off to no end. Not really a job, tho.

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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 68 points 1 month ago

There's also the job someone else is unable to do.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ok, but I'm going to stretch some logic here. If they are unable to do it, wouldn't that mean they are unwilling to learn or figure it out?

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 47 points 1 month ago

I am disabled. No amount of learning will enable me to cook my own meal. But I would sure like to do it.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Still just messing around but would it actually be a job if someone else would do it for free?

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Just change your thought to can't or won't do, and you are good to go!

You make your own thought! =P

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I can't. I'm not in the shower.

What if you somehow relate the thought to showers.

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[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Let me just quit my day job and learn the electrical code to install that new breaker panel I need. Gotta brush up on the gas fitting code too cause my furnace needs work. Then ill drive myself to the hospital where i will be my own nurse and my own surgeon.

The ability to learn is also linked with time, energy, and accessibility to resources.

So.. that's the point. You don't want to do all that...

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I would love to be able to become a master of all trades. I cant put food on my table consistently unless I stick to one.

But you don't really want to because that would be really hard.

[-] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

There are so many things you want to do or know that you are incapable of knowing or doing because you are too stupid to learn it. No amount of trying will be enough. Your specific brain is incapable. Not everyone has the same abilities to do or learn, but may want to if they could.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Things, not jobs. Job's are things people have and are capable of doing.

You're sitting over here telling me you don't want to learn to be a plumber, a pipe fitter, a doctor or a lawyer. Then you're saying you're not capable. But it's not just about you. Anyone can do the job, the job exists, just no one wants to do that specific task. UNLESS, they are paid for it.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Not everyone is capable of doing every job. The tasks of a recptionist are far different than those of a roofer. Jobs like emergency services can be high stress positions, jobs like assembly work can be rather dull sometimes. Everyone and every job is different.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're telling me a roofer could never learn to be a receptionist or receptionist could never learn to be a roofer.

I'm telling you no one wants to work 40 hrs a week diving 200ft with an oxygen tank strapped to their back and a welding torch in their hand to make underwater repairs on an oil rig.

Great, you want to weld. Great, you want scuba. You don't want that fucking job, no one does.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No, but someone with a fear of heights could become a receptionist while struggle to become a roofer

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ok, but why would they want to be a roofer then?

Either way you're not hearing me. Jobs are real things. No one wants to spend 40 hours a week climbing on roofs in the hot summer sun. They could want to know that stuff and they could want a baked in tan for all I care but they don't want to exhaust their time and effort for nothing in return.

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[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

wheelchair bound guy isn't running power lines in your neighborhood. literally CANT.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And all he dreams about is working 40 hours a week running powerlines.

I'm realizing now there is something really wrong with everyone ITT. It's like the only thing you imagine for yourself is having some sort of job.

Don't get me wrong. Work is good. Skills are good. Except no one should be fantasizing about back breaking labor until the day they die.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

well it doesn't need to be back breaking I like networking and having an accomplished, finished task or job.

but the title was literally "job", and you set a challenge saying it's for someone who doesn't want to, of course you're going to 1000 examples why you're incorrect, it's nothing personal.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not incorrect everyone is just playing semantics.

You might like aspects of your job but explain to me why you wouldn't do it for free.

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[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

.... that's .... why.... I put it as a shower thought.....

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[-] Daxter101 2 points 1 month ago

Just as a sanity check for you, I think you're right about the people who choose to post on this thread.

"Something someone can't do", is a subset of "job", because a "job" literally is something you get money for, because other people don't wanna do it for some reason.

But the antiwork community is not here, and to be honest, your user of the word "type" in "only one type of job", muddles the meaning of the sentence a bit.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Not everyone is capable of learning or figuring it out.

Think about childhood dream jobs like rock star or astronaut.

Rock star: You need musical talent and stage presence, enough to entertain lots of people with your music. Me, I can sing in the shower and play some simple tunes on an instrument, but I'd starve if I tried to make it as a simple busker.

Astronaut: NASA requires a master's degree in a STEM field, at least 1000 hours as a jet pilot, and that you pass a physical. Not everyone is capable of earning a master's degree. Not everyone will be capable of learning to fly planes. And the physical -- ever heard of a blind astronaut? Or how about conditions where your bones are brittle? Hop on the rocket - SNAP! Oops, broken legs. Etc.

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[-] polonius-rex@kbin.run 44 points 1 month ago

doing something someone else can't do

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago

Sometimes it is doing something nobody else can do

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

My workplace has heaps of cool jobs. No one person can do them all. So we have more people, doing cool jobs. The world is not all doom and gloom.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

But really…. Do you, or annyone else, really want to be doing it? If you had the resources not to be and could do anything else like travel, spending time with loved ones, or even just sitting in your own filth, would you choose to do it?

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

I've done that - frankly I'm not wired for 100% leisure/do what you want. Motivation slips away when there's no meaning behind doing something.

I'm OK with that, but at the same time I'd like to know what the cool jobs were.

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[-] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

What if you’re a professional burglar? Then, you’re doing something other people don’t want to do themselves, nor do they want you to do it either. The society doesn’t need burglars, but some people do it anyway.

[-] Bougie_Birdie 9 points 1 month ago

If you're a professional burglar, then you have bills to pay so you'll be taking on jobs for clients or a fence. Therefore, you're doing the job your client/fence doesn't want to do themselves.

Also, while society might not need burglars, it sure is good at creating them.

I think then the secret to happiness would be to remain an amateur burglar, motivated by your passion for crime.

[-] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, you don’t want to turn your hobby into a jobby.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If I just agree can I move on with my life?

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

No you must answer to the internet until we all fully agree in even the small details. Its a matter!

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[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Do the job that needs to be done. That is how a lot of businesses get started, keeping an eye out for a need to fill. I used to go to my job and avoid doing work but eventually the boss tracked me down and gives me the shit job nobody wants to do. As I've grown wiser I realized if I take the initiative I can pick the job I want and some other sap gets stuck with the shit job.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

This is categorically untrue. Jobs exist because one person can't do all the jobs.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 month ago

1 person doesn't want to clean toilets; but 50 other people are okay with it.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

It doing something it isn't practical for them to do

[-] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

Doing something that requires more time than is available to one person.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

If you're not spending your employment trying to do what you want to do vs what your boss wants you to do... What are you even doing with your life!?

[-] PostiveNoise@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I worked as an Outsource Manager at a couple of game companies (in addition to working for many years as a game artist). I outsourced mostly art asset creation, mostly to cheaper countries. It was kind of bittersweet, since it was clear to me and the artists at our studio that we were outsourcing really enjoyable work, work that our internal artists would rather have done than spend some of their time reviewing the cool art stuff these outsource artists created. But doing this allowed the studio to make a bigger, better game than our limited size team could do on their own.

So basically, I disagree with your premise. There are many sorts of jobs, for many reasons.

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[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Scene from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine where Rom, the Ferengi, is telling his brother Quark "Workers of the world unite." Subtitles are visible in the image.

(Edit: Looks like... my Firefox is blocking this image from just loading (it thinks it's a "tracker", I guess... which maybe it is) even though it's a valid image tag. Not sure how many viewers are affected. I'll just link to the image instead.)

[-] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If that were the case, there wouldn't be an application and interview process.

There are often multiple candidates for a given position.

Edit: I read this as "no one" rather than "someone."

I understand that someone on earth might not want any given job.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Nah, some people need the money. It just happens to mainly come from jobs.

It's not even about the task. I sure there is some one who would like to do the task but it's never just that simple. You can't just be an astronaut, you have to; goto school; be exceptional; etc.

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