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[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 151 points 4 months ago

Those who make peaceful protests impossible make violent rebellion inevitable.

[-] graymess@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago

Right? If it's years in prison either way, they're about to find out what real eco terrorism looks like when protestors are ready to go all in.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.de 1 points 3 months ago

I guess that's what they're aiming for, to turn the general public against protests (even more).

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 months ago

Absolutely. From the end of the article:

Separately on Thursday, three airports were granted high court injunctions against fossil fuel and environmental activists protesting at their sites. Leeds Bradford airport, London Luton airport and Newcastle international airport were given injunctions banning protesters from trespassing or causing a nuisance.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Getting someone fired for missing work isn't helping your cause in ANY way.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You want to protect workers? Shitting on people who try to protect the environment isn't it.

Ban union busting, ban arbitrary firing, set up a worker protections.

Do those things first. Then come complain.

Grow some class consciousness.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I do. I however approach it with a pragmatic strategy. Blocking traffic doesn't work. It doesn't change minds, it doesn't change policy. It prevents hourly workers from getting paid.

I agree with every thing you have said, except the execution. It hurts poor people and doesn't change policy.

[-] toaster@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago

If anything the richest people are the ones driving to work. Cars are expensive.

[-] powerofm@lemmy.ca 140 points 4 months ago

I thought the title was going to be a little click-baity, but it wasn't. 5-year and 4-year for planning to disrupt traffic is horrible. As the article points out, the dissonance between this sentencing and the actual harm caused by large-scale polluters is insane.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 4 months ago

If the sentencing is gonna be that bad for something minor, maybe dramatically up the ante next time.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

Drunk drivers that crash and actually ended up disrupting traffic get lighter sentences than this.

[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

This is fucking spot on and honestly I'm disgusted thinking about it.

So endangering the public, disrupting traffic, and potentially killing someone because you crashed your car while shitfaced is better than planning a protest I guess.

Oh yeah I forgot...of course the crime of offending and defying the ultra wealthy oil barons is worse than potentially killing a not rich person. They own basically everything at this point.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 102 points 4 months ago

Holy shit. 5 years for "conspiracy to cause public nuisance". Holy shit.

[-] momocchi@lemmy.world 93 points 4 months ago

If you punish peaceful activism this hard you make violent activism more appealing. If you’re going to prison for years either way you might as well really fuck shit up

[-] yuki2501@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

Especially after the events that transpired last week. Politicians need to show the people that opposing them nonviolently IS viable. It's in their own best interest.

Otherwise it's "fuck the rules, let them try", and based on history they WILL try.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 76 points 4 months ago

Not allowed evidence, not allowed a defense, and the crime was a zoom call where they tried to recruit people to block a highway. 5 years in prison.

Holy shit, are you guys okay in the UK? Blink twice if you need help.

[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 23 points 3 months ago

Blinking? Straight to jail!

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

Insurrectionists doing less time than these hippies. Y’all are crushin’ it down there…

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

M25 leads me to believe this is GB not the US

[-] toaster@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It says UK a few sentences in.

[-] uriel238 22 points 4 months ago

In for a lamb, in for a sheep.

In for a peaceful protest, in for sabotage

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Jesus that's a crazy sentence

[-] kux@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

The sentences are excessive and unjustifiable, but it wasn't just one zoom call that was taken into account - three of them including Hallam were already on suspended sentences and all of them were on bail at the time of the "offence." I do not think that any of them should be imprisoned but the full details are not being given in the reporting.

Sentencing remarks [pdf] https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/R-v-Hallam-and-others.pdf

[-] CyberTailor@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

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