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Some time ago, I noticed that youtube comments are copied without emojis, thought nothing of that - bugs happen - but today I finally decided to find out why and what the hell is even this.

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[-] einlander@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago

Odds are they did it so everyone would have uniform emojis. Would also enforce the gun to squirt toy change. Also it may be a remedy for the fact that android updates suck ass. A new phone may never be updated and be stuck with old emojis. Google should have learned by now to abstract away the hardware drivers, but that would make too much sense.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago

What exactly does it matter to be stuck with old emojis? Why is it important for them to be perfectly uniform?

[-] rimu@piefed.social 71 points 1 month ago
[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 month ago
[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago

The ones in MS Teams are so cursed. I use it for work and I swear everything about that app is peak catering to boomers.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Also made by boomers perhaps?

[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 month ago

They changed this a very long time ago

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

That's really interesting, I didn't realise the problem was that bad. I did the quiz at the bottom, tried to answer honestly and only got 5 out of 14 correct.

[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

I got 7 and even then that's only because half way through I began to notice a theme on the really obscure ones with long names.

These are ridiculous, they often bear no resemblance at all to their supposed meaning wtf? Slanted closed eyes with steam coming out the nostrils isn't anger it's.... "Triumph"!?

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that was a particularly egregious one! Triumph? Triumph?!? Ok then...

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

Mind you, emoji were created in Japan, so a lot of the original ones can be weird to us due to cultural differences.

[-] vinceman 5 points 1 month ago

Would love to see actual use vs intented use on that one lol.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

When they look different people interpret them differently.

Ah, paralinguistic communication is always like this. Once you change the symbol ever so slightly, the meaning being conveyed also changes.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I guess that makes more sense now that I see an example. I just can't fathom how any Apple artist thought they made a "grinning face with smiling eyes" when they looked at that image. It's "grimacing face with smiling eyes" very obviously. I thought all representations were like the others in this example - they all look like a "grinning face with smiling eyes". They look different but it doesn't matter.

I still think though that if there weren't obvious mistakes like this, it doesn't matter how the "grinning face with smiling eyes" exactly looks, or any other emoji for that matter.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

It's clearly another way to wall the apple garden further, to the point where you don't get to communicate in an effective way unless you both have an iPhone.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

That isn’t what the grinning face with smiling eyes ever looked like on iOS. I have no clue where that article got that. And it’s not what it looked like on other platforms either. They have their emoji confused and so you can’t even trust the survey at that point. Here is the history of the emoji across platforms. https://emojipedia.org/grinning-face-with-smiling-eyes#designs. And I’d say that google’s emoji versions look bad compared to the iOS versions. Samsung’s are horrendous though.

And just for comparison here is the grimacing face history. https://emojipedia.org/grimacing-face#designs

[-] hcbxzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And this is exactly why emojis suck and should never have been invented

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's interesting. I wonder how true that still is today, given the study was done in 2016. The study also pointed out that even on the same platform, people on average interpreted the same emojis differently. I'd be interested in an updated study conducted among younger Gen Z to see if being completely raised in the digital age has created various emoji languages, especially across cultures (which they mention they wanted to do at the end of the article as well).

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You do realize you can load fonts with emojis, right? Does this work on mobile devices?

[-] MTK@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Would also enforce the gun to squirt

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 37 points 1 month ago

it's because on web people would get different designs according to which operating system is used. Marketing prefers uniformity. They could load a webfont, but color font support is not really universal and because people use always the same 10 emojis it's faster to load only those cached pngs compared to a full webfont with 3000 emojis that aren't even used in that specific page

[-] tmpod@lemmy.pt 14 points 1 month ago

The web font would also be cached, and it wouldn't be that big of a resource in the first place. I think being able to copy a comment's content is more important, but whatever.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

But I'm INFURIATED tho!

[-] chellomere@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

I think if they just filled the alt= attribute with the emoji this would copy fine.

[-] No_Support_8363@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago
[-] bss03@infosec.pub 30 points 1 month ago

Consistency. They don't want to be at the whim of your font (which for many users will be the OS default). While it's not frequent, sometimes Apple (iOS) or Microsoft (Edge) will have a very different interpretation of a Unicode emoji, which makes the UX of comments containing those emoji inconsistent between YT users.

[-] qisope@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

If things work like twitch and they have custom emotes when you 'join' a channel as a paying member, it might also just be for consistency in how they handle the common free emotes and channel-specific emotes.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

That's what webfonts are for

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

I have been in meetings which people who thought the fact that a user could use a different font, even only intentionally, was "unacceptable".

I hope those people aren't directing the ship at YT, but could be.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago

They could have gone the webfont way instead..

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Absolutely ridiculous. For a company that touts web technologies down our throats all day, this is mind-boggling.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Still liked emoticons better. The emojis all look cursed. But i am sure someone will misinterpret those too

[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

But it’s FAANG company, they know how to do best /s

[-] cupcakezealot 6 points 1 month ago

all emojis should be blobcats and blobfoxes.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So we're back to emoticons now?

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