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American butter is shit tbf

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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 126 points 3 months ago

A good example why nationalism and pride about it makes no sense. Most people had no choice in where they are from, and had no influence on something like this. Having pride in something you did not influence and had no choice in is really weird and kind of narcissistic.

This is why it gets toxic and dangerous easily. We see similar issues with fans of sports teams, even though the fan has literally nothing to do with the team.

[-] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 59 points 3 months ago

its just an ancient tribal instinct. oh, you're from the squirrel bones tribe? pssh, your berry bushes are shit. rat skull tribe have best berry bushes, and we have stream. squirrel bones tribe have no stream and bad berry bushes

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Your sportsball team is shit. WE smashed you!

We!?! Really bob? Pretty sure you passed out and pissed yourself that night...

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 11 points 3 months ago

This is about butter, not nations. The nations are merely places in which the butter resides.

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[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 82 points 3 months ago

The secret is the west coasts.

The french guy was talking about butter from Bretagne. West coast Irish butter is amazing. West coast Scottish butter is amazing.

Know why? Because it absolutely pisses down with rain almost every fucking day in west coast Atlantic areas, the grass grows like triffids and the cows eat themselves silly

Quite simple

[-] Wirlocke 45 points 3 months ago

I choose to believe it's their mutual hatred of England that makes their butter taste good.

[-] Ranta@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

I shall be adopting "like triffids" into my everyday vernacular from now on.

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[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 80 points 3 months ago

There are excellent American-made butters done traditionally. I hate that they're making me defend the US but they have no monopoly on shitty food. It's kinda just another form of exceptionalism.

There's no secret to good butter. Grass fed cows, fermented milk, and high fat content. It's just expensive.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago

In average American food is terrible.

That doesn't mean there isn't great American food, it just means that the stuff that's sold the most is horridly heavily processed, thoroughly artificial and/or intensively farmed/raised crap.

It's not a lack of knowledge or capable people in that domain, it's that the system pushes cheap crap that whilst it own't kill you outright it will shorten your Life Expectation by almost two decades compared to most Europeans.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 51 points 3 months ago

I think a more accurate conclusion then, would be "the average American is too poor to afford good food"

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The CAP in Europe subsidizes more traditional farming and farming produce, not corn + hormone beef.

Also there are all sorts of local legislation that limit the extent to which crap food can be passed as real food: a lot of what can be sold as "cheese" in America can't be sold as "fromage" in France and similarly a "sausage" in Britain has a very strict definition of what can go into it (the crap stuff is called a "banger" since BY LAW it can't be called a "sausage").

A lot of the bad practices would be just as cost-saving to do in Europe as in the US, it's just that the legislation is way tighter and to some level (depending on the country) consumers are much more demanding (plus also due to the legislation, producers can't just name the fake stuff the same as the real stuff).

The impression I have from talking to Americans is that to eat good food in the US you need to really make an effort, whilst in Europe for most things comparativelly higher quality ingredients are widespread (often the default), easy to find it and there are quite a lot of restrictions on what producers can put in it (or how it's farmed or raised).

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[-] rekorse@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Sort of, it goes both ways its not just on the consumer.

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[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Yeah, when people discuss american food they automatically think of off-the-shelf walmart stuff, mcdonalds, etc. When there are tons of artisanal food producers here, like a lot of them.

[-] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

"American cheese isn't even cheese". I mean 'american cheese' is very processed. But go to Wisconsin and tell me we don't have good cheese.

There's plenty of good quality stuff in America. We just can't fucking afford it.

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[-] subignition@fedia.io 78 points 3 months ago
[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

You don't think it's gonna make a difference, but once you eat a stick of it, you'll know.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 3 months ago
[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

If you want to make Homer’s patented out of this world moon waffles you do.

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[-] oyfrog@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I definitely recommend going to the Butter Museum in Cork which is essentially a Kerrygold museum.

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[-] lapislazuli@sopuli.xyz 40 points 3 months ago

That French guy was just trying to butter them up.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

If the guide who was saying that about butter was not wearing a scarf around his neck and smoking a Gauloises, he needs to lose his French license.

[-] The25002@lemmings.world 20 points 3 months ago

IDK man is this one of those things where as an American I grew up with like super processed chocolate and regular chocolate would just taste strange to me?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Funny enough, I also grew up on super processed chocolate, and I thought I just didn't like chocolate that much, until I got some real chocolate when I was a teen.

God, Hershey's tastes like pain and sadness.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago

In an upper middle class european family I often ate swiss chocolate and once my dad went to the us and bought some hersheys for us to taste. / It was like 2 girls one cup in my mouth for my refined european taste buds /s

[-] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 3 months ago

It's got that vomit aftertaste

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago

Chocolate is a big one.

I'm talking specifically big brands, not chocolatiers, but something like Hershey's is absurd.

American chocolate is way too crumbly and oil-without-flavor with some weird mustiness; pretty much every country has better chocolate than the US.

American to international chocolate is like ketchup on a tortilla compared to a gourmet pizza.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The difference isn't even really noticeable in most dishes.

If you are doing something where butter is a main component you can use it to finish off your dish for some extra texture mostly. It's just more creamy out of the box.

For anything pan fried or where "tasting butter" is a component the vast majority of folks couldn't pass a blind taste test reliably at all.

Also, regular dark chocolate is garbage and more of this smugness. If you want 98% dark chocolate bitter shit, fine. But don't let smug redditors and lemmy lounge lizards bully you into liking sweet chocolate. Same with American beer, we have some of the worlds best. It's all gatekeeping smugness.

[-] blargerer@kbin.melroy.org 28 points 3 months ago

The American chocolate thing isn't about chocolate %. An American came up with a process to help preserve the dairy, however this creates an amount of butyric acid as a bi-product. Completely fine health wise, but the only time a normal person would otherwise encounter butyric acid is when vomiting. Its largely responsible for the iconic taste and smell associated with vomit. So for people that didn't grow up eating American chocolate, American chocolate literally tastes like vomit.

[-] Pazuzu@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago

the only time a normal person would otherwise encounter butyric acid is when vomiting

On the contrary, it's also the delicious tang in Parmesan cheese. American chocolate tastes as much like vomit as real Parmesan cheese does

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As a cooking ingredient, maybe, but if you're using butter on toast, bread, etc. then Irish/French/British butter is clearly better.

Also, the superiority of European chocolate isn't to do with the cocoa content or the sweetness - it's just creamier and has a smoother texture.

I'll agree with you on the beer, though.

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[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Given the number of Americans who have had their tastebuds destroyed by covid, I can understand your palate.

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lemmy should celebrate French-Irish butter day. What do yo say? Your community or ours?

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Absolutely just some posh dude's fanfiction

[-] Thomrade@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

I went to a house party once that was a lot of different nationalities of Europeans. Two French guys got increasingly drunk and belligerent about the aesthetic quality of French churches versus Irish churches. To the point they had to he asked to leave because they were close to starting a fight. I've met several frenfh people over the years and theres always some spontaneous comparison between something in france vs here. OPs story is not so far fetched.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Irish butter is good in the summer. The Irish butter they sell in winter usually has been frozen stuff from the summer production.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Is there really such a thing as bad butter, though?

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Yes, there is butter that is like a bland grease block. Then there is stuff like Irish butter that has noticeable, variable, taste. The emulsion from high quality butter is silky smooth, creamy, and surprising light on the tongue, as opposed to leaving a greasy coating on it. The emulsion holds better as the butter melts, with better butter. The way it softens differs in ways that make it nice to cook, and bake, with. It spreads much more nicely. There really is a major difference between industrial production butter, and butter from a real creamery.

I highly suggest you get some huge corp butter, from a big box grocer, and a block of butter from a quality creamery, and then compare them. You will instantly notice the difference. Melt some of each, cook with some of each, spread some of each on some good bread, have toast with each, etc. It will be the whole experience that has improved, not just the taste.

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 11 points 3 months ago

US citizen here.

I recall making butter from scratch in grade school and it was significantly better than what we get from the supermarket.

Kind of sad that some grade schoolers can do better than a large corporation.

...come to think of it. That could have been what started my obsession with whole foods from quality sources.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Betty Botta bought some butter;

“But,” said she, “this butter’s bitter!

If I put it in my batter

It will make my batter bitter.

But a bit o’ better butter

Will but make my batter better.”

Then she bought a bit o’ butter

Better than the bitter butter,

Made her bitter batter better.

So ’twas better Betty Botta

Bought a bit o’ better butter.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

TIL the french make butter.

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[-] Hamartia@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Sure it's fair to have differing opinions of where the best butter comes from but Ireland likely has the oldest.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Butter from tropical South Pacific countries is high in salt. It help with replenishing minerals your body loses due to sweating.

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[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Why are Americans so into Irish butter? It's ok, but just about the same as British butter. French and danish butter though are completely different. It's fermented.

[-] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

I see Irish butter in nearly every US grocery store; I’ve never seen French or Danish butter but I’ll keep an eye out for it, sounds interesting.

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