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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

This question was asked, and the answer was "Kill the poor, make line go up."

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I remember in Interstellar, the Blight caused huge starvation among the poor causing them to riot. The government asked NASA to drop an orbital bomb on them but NASA refused, which caused the government to remove funding for NASA and close it publicly. It was just fiction then but it's looking a bit grim now.

If the AI can run everything, then we become a post scarcity society. I'm hoping for Iain M Banks Culture series myself, but who knows. Or maybe the AI becomes so intelligent it just checks out like in the movie Her and we have to go back to doing it with non-AI tech.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

If we all run out of money they will harvest the marrow from our bones. They'll extract a fee, don't doubt it.

[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago

If all the money is hoarded by the rich, who is going to spend money to make the economy run?

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

The rich will keep trading with each other. Look at housing for an example.

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[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

The real answer is no one. They will quickly realize that at the root of the economy are the regular people, and since the economy is a cycle, when you cut off a part, the cycle doesn’t work anymore.

People (doomers) here are saying businesses and rich people will, but this can only, work for a limited time, because either the products will shoot up in price since only the rich can afford them, or the businesses won’t be able to sell their products, so they can’t buy new things, which means no more revenue to the shareholders.

Think of all the companies that live from b2b models, when you look closer, they are all at some the suppliers of b2c businesses, except, maybe military companies. That company that makes the lithography machines (asml) only sells to other businesses such as tsmc. Tsmc also only sells to other businesses, but they sell to businesses that sell to consumers.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

1024: This new farming technology means one person can feed 1000 people! What are the other 999 people supposed to do? Are the lords just going to conscript all us serfs and have us fight for their entertainment?

[-] tonyn@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

When there is a scarcity of resources a population will shrink to sustainable levels. Right now there are too many people to share the scraps left from the billionaires hoovering up all the capital. People will stop having kids, others will die homeless, and population will decrease just as happens in any population of animals experiencing scarcity.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Were already seeing a drop in product quality and reliability. Just try a search engine for practically anything. Chances are you already type "wiki" or "reddit" or "Lemmy" or whatever along with your search terms. AI(LLM) is just advanced cargo cult development. It won't translate to physical design even though that's being pushed by management level and marketing. Products will stop being useful altogether.

That's on top of the tailoring to business and wealthy class as others have argued here. But even that will have to endure enshitification. Ultimately the wealthy will pay for labor on their toys(they already do, we just can't afford those).

This us a marketing and executive delusion issue.

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

They'll be making stuff for rich people.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Personally I welcome a post scarcity economy

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Bad news: it is going to be an artificial scarcity economy. It basically already is, we have plenty of money for everyone to live well but it is all going into hoards.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

This is what the mega rich don’t seem to realize. They already have 99.9% of the wealth, but if they had 99.1% of it no one would give a shit how much money a few trust fund babies had.

We would all be able to take care of ourselves and our families. Instead they want all the wealth and are willing to kill most of the global population along with the earth to get it.

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How is everyone going to be fired by AI? First define AI, because what we have now is a bunch of LLMs.

In the end, it's more practical to have both working in tandem. You have a person who has common sense guiding and an AI tool who assists the person in doing the work.

At worst, people would have to up skill/re skill to have working experience with AI tools.

But people are not gonna stop working. New jobs will be created and some old jobs will disappear, as it has been the case

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This isn’t any different from any other automation , so far. Every time there is a new level of automation, someone asks this question. Yes there can be disruption, even a generation or two lost at the level of “Industrial Revolution”, but so far it’s always come back with more jobs, more opportunity.

So what’s different this time? Do you thinks it’s good enough to replace thinking? That was my fear when it looked like self-driving was coming fast, but that fizzled out, and I have Vern blower expectations for this round of generative ai. Sure, it might be transformative to some roles and destructive to the remains of journalism but I don’t see it taking many actual jobs

We’re arguably already in this situation with outsourcing, smart automation, service industries, where there seem to be fewer “middle” jobs. While some of us can be the higher skilled new jobs, way too many new jobs are just not

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That doesn't matter because they won't be here by the time that happens

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