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[-] Vieric@lemmy.world 595 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Whatever damn fool did this has just made the situation about a million times worse. I don’t give a shit who did this, it was the worst move you could have made at the worst time you could have made it.

And those of you jumping to immediate conspiracy theories need to stop and think about how much we tend to make fun of Republicans for doing literally the exact same thing. Us spending the next 3 days circlejerking each other off our own bullshit conspiracy theories isn’t gonna help the situation, its just gonna make us all look like a bunch of hypocrites. Wait a few days, get whatever info they are willing to give us, and then try to figure out what happened. If it still looks fake or like a false flag or whatever the fuck after that point, whatever. but for gods sake use some critical thinking to get there instead of jumping to conclusions with no info.

For what its worth, I am extremely anti-trump, I am scared shitless of what will happen should he win a second term. But dear god, please think about the way you all are acting, when you act like the same kind of psychopaths you claim to stand against it is not a good look. please consider that before you post.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 127 points 3 months ago

The Boogaloo crowd just got handed exactly what they needed to, in their minds, justify basically anything.

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago

They were going to do that anyway, but nevertheless.

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If insurrections are no big deal I don't see how assassination attempts are something to get upset about.

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

Yeah the conspiracies in this thread are cringe. Is it really such a stretch to think that a very hated individual was the target of a botched assassination? No, can't be! Must be a false flag!

Everyone needs to calm the fuck down. This was quite clearly real and not staged.

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[-] whatwhatwhatwhat@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

I could not agree more. Aren’t we supposed to be the ones who care about democracy, about humanity, and about logic and reason?

Some innocent bystander died, and their family is going to sleep tonight without their loved one alive for the first time. Others are waiting anxiously in hospitals while their innocent loved ones are in critical condition. Fuck Trump, but no one deserves to have been killed or maimed for being at one of his rallies.

[-] Luminotik@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The amount of folks in here that seem to be okay with someone being assassinated is disgusting. This is not how sane people get things accomplished. Shameful.

I loathe Trump, but man, the hypocrisy in the air is stifling.

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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

I'm no conspiracy guy... But goddam they sure did take their pick of pictures to release showing a bloody trump with fist up in front of a flag that just happened to be waving there. If nothing else, GOP and FOX will say the libs tried to kill Trump, not ' the assassin' tried, but the libs tried. And let the fundraising begin for the GOP

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[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 363 points 3 months ago

Why are people screaming and afraid? Guns are a part of society in America. Unless… they’re dangerous…

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 129 points 3 months ago

The secret service didn't let anyone but the shooter have a gun, so everyone's feeling awkward

[-] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 100 points 3 months ago

They just witnessed a 2A activist have his rights trampled by the secret service!

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 41 points 3 months ago

Literally the point of 2A. At least according to them.

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[-] leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 295 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Maybe it was an official act of Biden, then it's not a crime. Nothing to see here, just as wanted by SCOTUS.

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[-] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 255 points 3 months ago

Could history please have the decency not to re-enact how Hitler survived dozens of assassination attempts?

[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 105 points 3 months ago

This is exactly what I’m afraid of.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm afraid he is going to ride this into the White House or it ignites open political shootings. Not a good time.

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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 156 points 3 months ago

Fuck, things are likely going to start really escalating now.

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[-] SaintWacko@midwest.social 145 points 3 months ago
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[-] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 140 points 3 months ago

This was the worst possible outcome. Unless someone intends on finishing the job it may as well be his election now.

He'll spend the rest of the election telling people how strong he is, how Biden could not have survived and he'll use the attack to validate all his claims of Democrat corruption/Republican righteousness.

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 months ago

Don’t forget about how through ‘the protection of God’ trump survived so the Christian vote can put him in office with a made up deity’s approval.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 88 points 3 months ago

Why were people Scared? Guns are SAFE! Guns are SO SAFE that they're trying to FORCE them into Schools! It would be INCREDIBLY FUCKED UP if the same people who RAN AWAY from the Guns want to FORCE OUR KIDS into that Situation EVERY DAY!

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[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 80 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It seem like he was hit. Blood was on his right ear in one shot. Unclear if that's because he was hit there or if he touched it after touching something else bloody.

He was escorted away on foot with secret service.

Edit: reports that one bystander and the shooter are now dead.

Claims the suspect was a man named Mark Violets. (This ID may be wrong no official sources covering this)

Biden condemns the act.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 110 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

(I hate the source, F this guy) but here's him being ushered off the stage after... https://x.com/stillgray/status/1812250467071885730

Edit: his base is going to be insanely fired up now. I'm genuinely scared about what's going to happen now. I can see it already "the deep state tried to stop him and God saved Trump!" ugh.

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[-] takeda@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So 3 shots fired (rest were more rapid, so looked like SS responding), 2 people died, only trump get out of it without any major issue. A grazed ear implies that he survived by mere centimeters.

Then when going to the car he is mouthing "fight, fight, fight". I'm sorry, but this is a very odd reaction for somebody that nearly died today.

He was trying to get people rioting on J6 (but that while succeeded, fortunately got stopped), he tried people to riot when he had criminal trial (didn't work at all), and now in the heat of the moment, he thought that was perfect time to try it again?

For sake of everyone I hope this will also be unsuccessful. I'm glad Democrats quickly condemned this (this is something we quite missed in 2017-2020 when similar events happened).

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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 70 points 3 months ago

Okay, I’ve gotten over my initial shock of this. Clearly this shouldn’t have happened but this is the same guy who said his VP should be hanged, and he himself has called for political violence against his enemies many, many times

I am glad that decent politicians are condemning this attack, as they should. But I think it makes sense to put this incident in perspective, Trump has promoted and supported political violence himself many times before this, including on Jan 6th

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago

Without evidence so many of you calling it fake. I guess we're no smarter than the wackjobs

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[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 66 points 3 months ago

Please let the shooter be a white dude. If he is any minority group they're gonna be the first to get the supreme Court treatment when he takes power, which seems inevitable now.

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago

The time traveler sent back to alter our timeline wasn't a very good shot.

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[-] queue 48 points 3 months ago

Gotta love how people are instantly pulling a QAnon deal of "ITS A FALSE FLAG, FAKE NEWS, NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT A GRAND CABAL!"

I'm more pissed at how they missed the big orange fucker. Aim better next time.

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[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago

This is the worst possible scenario.

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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 41 points 3 months ago

For those thinking this is staged, listen to the audio carefully. You can hear the impact of the bullets landing near the podium before you hear the sound of the bullet being fired. You can hear a distinct click just before each pop; because bullets typically travel faster than sound, this is accurate to what you would actually hear if you were being shot at. This seems like a detail that Trump's team would be too incompetent to have thought to account for.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 53 points 3 months ago

You are not hearing the impact of the bullets.

The 'click' you are hearing are the gunshots.

They sound nothing like bullet impacts on anything.

It sounds tinny due to the audio being equalized for a speech in a large open noisy area.

The report that you hear afterward is the echo, the report, of the gunshot, as the sound is in a fairly large open area and it bounces/echoes through the environment.

This confirms that it is real gunshots, not bb guns as some people who have evidently never listened to footage of gunshots are claiming.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 40 points 3 months ago

I hope no innocent bystanders were injured.

[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 72 points 3 months ago

Innocent bystanders? I guess there were some journalists there.

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