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submitted 8 months ago by roboto@feddit.org to c/world@lemmy.world

Did he do it for the memes?

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 254 points 8 months ago

Even if he goes full and permanent vegetable, he's still not Trump. Top priority is stopping Orange Hitler from taking control again, so please for the love of human rights, vote for whoever has the the best shot at beating him - if that's Biden, cool. If it's Harris, cool. If it's a literal ham sandwich, fucking fine - all three are orders of magnitude more qualified to do the job then Trump.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 65 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I'll vote blue... But get this fucker off the ticket. I'd much rather it be Kamala, or like... Nearly anyone really.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 38 points 8 months ago

Yeah, the question isn't who Democrats will vote for. It's who independents will vote for. And there are a lot of independents.

Relying on the "Never Trump" vote to win this election feels like a terrible risk.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 36 points 8 months ago

I think this is a dangerous attitude. He's made some gaffs recently but overall has not been a terrible person or leader. Supporting the possibility of dropping a candidate this late in the game especially when there are no super star saviors waiting in the wings is the kind of party weakness the GOP would eat up and is a recipe for failure. You don't have to love him at this point, but it's too late to start over, just suck it up make a donation to his campaign and vow to become more involved in political change at earlier levels so hopefully we are not in this mess again.

[-] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

I'm voting Joe because he is still the only qualified candidate for the job. The package he brings is a Vice President who could do the job if he were to step down due to health/age concerns to guarantee a female President as his dream come true. She then gets to pick her Vice President which should absolutely be AOC. The opposition has no convincing argument to draw this out in a court as they would need to present their arguments to AOC for rebuttal,

It's just so batshit crazy it can't fail.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 28 points 8 months ago

I'm voting Joe because he is still the only qualified candidate for the job.

There's a couple of hundred million other qualified candidates in the US. If you're looking for politicial experience, there's several hundred in Washington alone.

Dems have totally failed to bring through the next two or three generations of candidates. That the party feels that he's their only choice is shameful.

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[-] Avialle@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

Going into survival mode forever, where either party can do whatever the frick they want, because they others mustn't win! Nice system you got there, where it's like 50\50 every time!

They present you a Trump and therefore they can even kill your kids, as long as Trump doesn't win. It's a scam.. both parties are in it. But they divided you all so perfectly fine, you stopped thinking a long time ago.

Looking forward to your comments, telling me about NO BOth SIdeS!

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[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

I will take weekend at Bernie's in the White House with people who actually understand policies over fascist bat shit crazy any day. Not even a discussion for me.

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[-] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 207 points 8 months ago
[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 189 points 8 months ago

The funny thing is that Biden's had gaffes like this his whole career and could have laughed it off under other circumstances, but with the eyes of the entire world on him watching for him to have another senior moment this is another nail in the coffin.

[-] resin85@lemmy.ca 67 points 8 months ago

Trump at a rally this week: "Mothers will never again be forced to watch their children overdosing & hosp--lee. We will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms, screaming, 'What can I do? Help me God, what can I do?' We are a nation whose once revered airports are a dirty, crowded mess."

Has any media covered that word vomit?

[-] roboto@feddit.org 38 points 8 months ago

Trump’s brain is also absolutely cooked. He just doesn’t look as confused as Biden I think that helps him. Plus that his voters don’t care about facts, I’m guessing they might have actually had some bleach.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 26 points 8 months ago

No, because with Trump it has been normalized for years and his base couldn't care less about these things.

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[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago

Combined with his constant look of intense confusion, it seems like a lot more than senior moments.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Usually the old guy is the one INSIDE the coffin. Not the one nailing it shut......

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 189 points 8 months ago
[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

During Premier Trump's reign, on Reddit, that picture preview always pointed the way to the most roaring political dumpster fires.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 134 points 8 months ago

I remember when Biden was picked as Obama's VP, and everyone laughed because he's known to make gaffes like this.

Obviously, there's a lot of scrutiny on him, but let's not pretend it's all because he's too old. It's just Biden being Biden, and while he's probably too old for the job, that's what happens when you don't impose upper age limits...

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 72 points 8 months ago

It's not just "biden being biden" by a longshot. He is 81 and significantly worse.

We are rightly worried he's going to lose against trump.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 37 points 8 months ago

As if Trump doesn't make those kinds of verbal blunders.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

His voting base doesn’t care if they’re led by an unfit leader.

Be better than them.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago

People aren't going to vote for Trump over Biden, they are just going to sit out. America doesn't have mandatory voting.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago

As John Stewart pointed out. Biden's "huh?' scale is spiking.

[-] Muscar@discuss.online 23 points 8 months ago

And its a million times better than the alternative we are risking.

[-] Asifall@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

True, but I feel like people have been talking past each other about this.

On the one hand, you have people saying Biden’s cabinet would do a better job than Trump, which is true. On the other hand, you have people saying Biden is going to lose to trump unless he somehow makes a dramatic turnaround in the next couple months, which is also true according to all available data.

The real question isn’t whether Biden is better than trump, it’s whether Biden would serve the country better by stepping down.

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[-] Gsus4@programming.dev 117 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Guys, I'm not american, but at least today answering the press questions (no teleprompter) Biden was dishing out wisdom about economics and geopolitics and very thoughtful...he is just not very good with the whole "slick reality show clown president to distract the cattle while you rob them" part :/

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately, that is what the voters want

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[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 108 points 8 months ago

It’s like saying the wrong name at your wedding 😂

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 97 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He was just asked about his confidence in Kamala to be able to beat Trump, should he be succeeded(sp?)... and he referred to Trump as his VP and then meandered into some vague talking points.

[-] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

I thought you were trolling, like in a "you have to double check if I'm bullshitting you now" kind of way. But it's actually true... and unlike his Putin remark he didn't seem to even notice he said it.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Its only been getting worse as this post conference pressser has gone on.

He has forgotten entirely to respond to parts of a multipart question, meandered into basically 'I sat down with Golda Meir and Yitsak Rabin and we accomplished peace!', just keeps repeating things he did (some of which are legitimate accomplishments) that have little to do with the questions asked...

... "You said your presidency would be a bridge to younger candidates, what happened to that?"

Rambles about being in the Senate a really long time

... at one point he actually said, outloud, 'How do I not make this seem self centered?' before answering a 'Considering the stakes, do you really think you should run?' type of question.

In the time I have been typing this he has basically barked in anger after a short response to a question that was followed by the reporter asking 'thats all?'.

He also keeps doing the sort of asshole loud whisper sarcasm voice.

He is coming off as a sundowning angry old man who doesn't want his car keys taken away.

[-] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes and it's really getting to the point where it undoubtedly impacts his ability to perform without an aide basically at his side at all times. Imagine him telling another world leader something insane and the translator having to jump in correct him. Or worse, how can you be sure something he did mean to say was actually something he meant to say and not just another mistake? That kind of communication failure is very dangerous at the highest level.

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[-] USSEthernet@startrek.website 33 points 8 months ago

Caught that too, was rough to watch.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Oh my god.....I thought /u/sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip was joking. Biden really said trump as his VP??? God damn this is not a good look......

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[-] bolexforsoup 92 points 8 months ago
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[-] Dearth@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

The aged president with a stutter says something wrong in public again.

Whatever

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A saddening phenomenon that's likely to happen if this continues ... is people opening up about how they saw the decline way before the debate but presumed it was a "one off" or "bad night". I think it's already started somewhat.

But the picture that could emerge with pretty high clarity is that "the issue" was covered by an inner group and ignored by those peripherally exposed to it ... all instead of the party preparing for it, preparing new potential candidates, and taking seriously the notion from Biden in 2020 that he wouldn't run in 2024.

Losing to Trump a second time by sticking to a party elder is going to be a big deal (if it happens of course). It will probably look more like the Dems losing than trump winning, and it prob will look like the Dems allowing it all to happen out of hubris and stupidity, not unlike the RBG fuck up. Could seriously shake the party up?

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 23 points 8 months ago

And also the entire Hillary fiasco, where she barely campaigned in midwestern states. I wonder if they are truly so wealthy and disconnected as to literally not realize what is going on - for them, the economy is "fine" and so everything is hunky-dory, so if they plan on losing rather than put in someone that they don't feel that they have as much control over as Biden, then... that might be the end of democracy. Heck, that SCOTUS ruling is already in the past now - maybe they are ready to end the fiction that our votes matter any longer?

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[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 months ago

Zelensky would brush it off.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 61 points 8 months ago

He did. "I'm better" -zelensky

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Zelelsky is originally a comedian. I feel like that's been glosssed over by his amazing job as political leader. But 10 years ago he was just a comedian on Ukraine TV not assosiated with politics.

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Biden: Refuses to step down after a dismal electoral debate performance that makes people think he should be in a care home and not in the White House.

Also Biden: Wrongly introduces Zelenskyy with the same name as the Jasper Carrott looking dictator who invaded his country two years ago.

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

Heck, 15 years ago, way back in 2009, Obama said, "During the second hundred days, I will learn to go off the teleprompter and Joe Biden will learn to stay on the teleprompter."

The dude hasn't been able to keep his words straight for a while...

But the timing is... very poor to say the least...

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[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago
[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Look bruh, I confuse my kids’ names n shit. I’m like mid 40s. Pretty sure it’s not a fucking thing that he accidentally said putin.

HOWEVER, even though I personally don’t give a fuck about this gaffe, I recognize that fucktard undecideds will select the next prez, and they’re turned off to Biden for legit reasons, while at the same time blind to trump’s stupidity, treason, narcissism, and pernicious malignancy. Fucking idiot cunts.

And so, I think Brandon must fuck off. We’re fucked unless he’s gone.

[-] Ifera@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Damn, I sort of feel like saying "Thank fuck he isn't president of MY country", but then I remember how even my local covidiots felt validated by the giant cheese puff, and how Trump is offering carte blanche to companies, for them to pillage and destroy the living conditions of the whole world.

All I can do is shake my head, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 34 points 8 months ago

I saw someone put it well on mastodon:

Non-Americans care about US elections for the same reason a hostage cares about the mental state of a gunman.

https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112766969146106942 (@aral@mastodon.ar.al)

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