If my kids did that I'd be perfectly fine with them getting kicked out of school or even if the teachers wanted to press charges. I know teachers can be shitty but this is completely uncalled for unless they were actually doing those things
I know teachers can be shitty but this is completely uncalled for unless they were actually doing those things
Because the ends justify the means?
What do you mean with your question? What those students did is slander and mobbing. Those are prosecutable offenses.
Slander is a civil matter, and there is no crime called "mobbing."
I meant that comment in regard to
I know teachers can be shitty but this is completely uncalled for unless they were actually doing those things
If they actually did those things, it wouldn’t be slander.
If I were to guess, I’d take it as “unless the kids knew/suspected with good reason they were doing those things”, because that’s how I would feel about it at least. I would still want to talk to them about appropriate responses and make sure they knew they could trust me, but kids don’t always know how to bring up adults’ misbehavior.
If it’s just a fluke, that would feel like an ends justifying the means situation.
It would be harassment whether or not it's true, so the teachers would still have reason to sue.
I just hope something happens with their parents too, because kids who do things like this tend to have shitty parents.
I’d like to first of all say that I don’t see any reason to believe the teachers did this. I hope the police proceed under that assumption unless evidence leading otherwise turns up. My original comment was about why someone might not want their children punished as severely, if the teachers did in fact do these things to their students, but I don’t think it’s likely (and really hope it’s not the case).
It would be harassment whether or not it's true, so the teachers would still have reason to sue.
That’s true, but it’s probably not a huge concern. Middle schoolers under that kind of pressure will react without thought to consequences and if their most grievous response is to harass their abusers, most courts would probably recognize that. I would still explain to them that they can trust me and that I’ll believe them if they tell me something like this in the future, before it gets to this point.
I just hope something happens with their parents too, because kids who do things like this tend to have shitty parents.
Agreed.
Wow whaddya know. Snotty stuck up rich kids weren't taught morals by their parents who also probably don't have any.
Who would want to teach with student behavior being out of control like this?
This just in: "kids are assholes, but this is the first time they have been assholes in this manner"
Some of yall have clearly never been around teenagers. They are ruthless no matter how well you raise them, and their groupthink is capable of moving literal mountains if directed in the right direction.
So kids are joking around with each other online and the school is monitoring their accounts and punishing them for mean jokes about teachers? Leave these kids alone
Harassment is serious business. These kids should not be online.
This person is surely in their mid teens as well.
I decided against teaching 2 decades ago and reading this vindicates that decision.
I speak that really from experience. My Reddit account (which I abandoned) is roughly 17 now. Was on other platforms prior.
You can usually tell when you've got a teen when they become libertarian and angry about why anyone should care about something edgy being done. The whole "it was just a prank, bro" mindset.
Maybe we misunderstood each other. I meant the children should not be on the internet.
If they are going to do hurtful crap like that they should not be allowed to have smart phones.
Ah Gotcha. I was commenting specifically on the sorts of behaviors i have seen young teens engage in online that shows (not in a bad way, just reveals) that they are young teens.
Again, how is it harassment if it's just jokes these kids are passing around between each other that are only discoverable by snooping in them?
it's not really a joke to label a private citizen as a pedophile through impersonation
This was impersonation on the level of "hey look at me, I'm funkless_eck, I'm a pedophile! dur dur dur" not some attempt to make it seem like those teachers were actually pedophiles.
regardless, as a parent and educator, it would be an important lesson to teach wrt boundaries and acceptable behavior
Yeah I'd say it's equivalent to any other inappropriate joke a kid might tell - a moment for a conversation but not anything too serious.
"it was just a joke bro!"
I mean everyone gets that it was in fact a joke right? What are we talking about here? People are trying to make it sound like the kids were harassing these teachers or trying to trick people into thinking they were pedophiles as opposed to passing around dumb memes about them between each other.
Impersonating someone to suggest sexual relationships threatens their marriage or partnership.
Implying pedofilia threatens their freedom and all their relationships.
This isn't telling jokes at the lunch table, it's shouting them in a public forum. Tik Tok is no different than putting up a billboard or running an ad spot on television.
I'd say it's a lot more like the lunch table, or even like a table at a restaurant off-campus. These kids were not directing these jokes at anyone but each other, but were in a semi-public place where they could be overheard. It's basically equivalent to a teacher walking by a table full of students making jokes about their teachers by pedophiles and getting them in trouble after overhearing.
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