Tankies are fascists, so this isn’t surprising.
To place Russian communism and Nazi-fascism on the same moral plane, in that both would be totalitarian, is superficial at best, fascism at worst. Whoever insists on this equation may well consider himself a democrat, in truth and in the bottom of his heart he is in fact already a fascist, and certainly only in a hypocritical and insincere way will he fight fascism, while reserving all his hatred for communism.
- Thomas Mann
NO U
Stunning. Incredible take.
Also they said fascism, not nazi-fascism. Tankies aren't nazis. They excuse completely different genocides than the holocaust.
Russia is an oligarchy, not a communist state. Where have you been since the 1990s?
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Yes very well articulated. He even managed to use democrat as an insult. Stunning and brave.
They said tankies, not Russian communism.
Everybody knows russian communism is marginally better than fascism, except those who survived it and fascistly say it's as bad.
Lol that is such stupid nonsense wtf 😂
Found the tankie
Tankies are not fascist, they are just willing to do whatever it takes to defend the socialist revolution.
If you're willing to do "whatever it takes" including instituting fascism, you're a fascist.
A socialist revolution by definition cannot be fascist, fascism is a far right movement and a socialist revolution is far left movement they both have authoritarian aspects, but are polar opposites as far as the goals of each movement. Socialism is for the benefit of all, fascism is for the benefit of the few.
Also I'm not an accelerationist and am voting for Biden, there is no where near enough class conciousness in the States for a Prolitariat Revolution to occur, but once that critical tipping point is reached I think Landlords and Billionaires should get the wall if they refuse to peacefully give up their hordes of wealth and property for the common good and that the revolution should be defended by any means necessary.
Fine, I will grant you, you aren't fascists. Fascists hate people and want to kill them.
Tankies love "the revolution" more than the people they want to benefit. You may not see it as breaking a few eggs to make an omelette, but when you sit out an election where the fascists have a better than coin flip odds of seizing power, you are effectively letting them do that. And if you're willing to let trans people die in camps for... what was it? "Enough class consciousness to build" then... well, fuck you and your revolution.
Like, also this reveals your total all encompassing privilege. Because look dude, if the fascists are putting trans people and immigrants into camps, do you really think they will spare you? Or do you just think you're white enough that you'll go under the radar until your "revolution" happens?
Also, fuck any revolution that involves taking up the tools and institutions of power. Those need to be ground to dust
Tankies are like NRA lunatics that dream with the chance to shoot somebody, but are scared to try alone.
Such as justifying capitalist oligarchs that pretend to be socialists like Putin and Xi.
Actually, Putin doesn't even pretend to be socialist. He's pretty unashamedly capitalist. Tankies love the guy anyway.
Funny how the self-proclaimed vanguard of the radical left are just incoherent anti-western reactionaries wearing Marxism like a fig leaf, isn't it? Like, I'm all for breaking down the current neoliberal capitalist hegemony, but you've gotta have a hole in your head to want to replace it with a literal crime syndicate masquerading as a government or an oppressive hyper-capitalist dictatorship with imperialistic ambitions.
Tankies don't give a fuck about socialism.
Tankies, just like other fascists, are willing to do whatever it takes to gain and keep power, including pretending to support socialism
If I was to give this point of the benefit of the doubt (which, to be clear, I don't) what you're saying is that tankies are accelerationists. And I get it, to an extent -- a comfortable middle class isn't going to be concerned about the depredations of the right until they start to find themselves in the crosshairs -- but the last time fascists got their way in the world, more than 73 million people died. Arguing, in effect, that the aftermath of another world war will be better for the survivors is a... challenging point to defend when it requires you to dismiss the deaths of a significant percentage of the world's population, especially when those most in danger from a rising right wing are those that a supposed left-winger should most want to protect. Sacrificing religious, ethnic, and sexual minorities on the altar of a better future for religious, ethnic, and sexual minorities doesn't sit well with me.
Whatever it takes including sending tanks after people because they don't agree with your rule or am I missing something? Tankies is literally authoritarian or do you mean that your ideology is different and you want people to stop calling you that?
You have a choice between 1) capitalism that's free for all, fuck the earth, fuck the workers, fuck the consumer, disband the EPA, OSHA, FTC, or 2) capitalism that's regulated, with environmental protection, worker protections, minimum wages, workplace standards, product regulations, etc. The choice should be obvious.
Such as allying with the fascists so hard that Stalin was in talks to join the axis before Barbarossa.
If they're voting for Biden then why are they saying they won't vote for Biden and are encouraging others not to vote for Biden? 🤔
Lol, which is why historically they have coalitioned with the right to murder the socialists before the socialists could take power.
Not that meme is wrong, but the account that posted that comment is 3 days old and is clearly a troll.
I mean as if these people aren't all just trolls to some extent.
It takes either great malice, great idiocy, or a great and terrible combination of the two to be a supporter of this shit.
We need a new name for Russian state sponsored spam other than "troll", which should be restored to the original status as a perpetually online nerd who enjoys starting arguments.
powerful "leopards eating faces" energy from the tankies. I wish them luck with the anti-communist death squads outlined in project 2025
I mean, you can even see them self-identifying as tankies in this very thread. But okay.
Is "Tankies" a new term? I've never heard it before a week or two ago.
It's decades old. Refers to people who support communist regimes regardless of what they do. Originally because the Soviet Union used tanks to quell rebellion and some people in the west still cheered for them.
I believe it was coined by the British left when the USSR quashed the Hungarian revolution by driving tanks through their streets. Anyone still in support of them is deemed a "tankie." Nowadays it was meant to criticize authoritarian communists.
You shouldn't be getting downvoted for asking a question. Asking genuine questions are good
I've seen it a lot more often after joining lemmy
That is because you joined a social media platform made by socialists.
This place is fucking illiterate
Y'all don't even know what tankies are anymore.
Isn't it liberals handing the election to Trump by pretending like Biden has a chance and refusing to push forward a new candidate? Oh wait I forgot Liberals are fascist we just haven't scratched them yet 🖕
Neat how a far right ideology is being championed by the left...oh wait it's not
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