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[-] mayra@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

Very cool but Proton Drive for Linux when?

[-] barcaxavi@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

I feel like their goal is more close to providing a privacy-minded alternative to Google's G-suite to "regular" users, so for me it totally makes sense. But yeah, I'm also really waiting for the Linux drive app.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Doesn't rclone work?

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'm gonna try to see if you can use a windows vm with proton drive and a shared folder with the host system. Kinda a pain, but if it works it works. What I'd really love is an api for this kind of asshattery

[-] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

It doesn't make financial sense to spend money on supporting an entire new platform that's used by <3% of the population.

[-] wagoner@infosec.pub 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For every proton post, can we please get a bot that auto posts these, to save everyone the effort:

  • proton isn't private / yes it is / they never claimed to be
  • wasnt there a case when they shared that activist account / you have the facts wrong, here's what actually happened
  • [insert proton app name] for Linux when? / Linux is only x% of user base
  • proton needs to finish [insert proton app name] before starting something new / they are different teams so not relevant
  • proton needs to make X / no they don't
  • people shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket / don't use the service then

Thanks!

[-] refalo@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

You forgot proton is glowing / no they're not

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

also SaaS is cancerous shit

[-] sour@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Not for 99% of the population...

[-] unrushed233@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

No one forces you to use it

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 38 points 1 year ago
[-] sour@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

It probably IS standard notes, given that Proton acquired them.

[-] als 7 points 1 year ago

That'd make sense, given that they recently joined forces

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Source? This looks like a note-taking app, not a google docs replacement.

[-] 0oWow@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

FYI this does not include spreadsheets, so if you're hoping to replace an office suite, it's not there yet.

[-] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Spreadsheets are life. I think in spreadsheets. I hope it comes soon.

[-] krash@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Have you tried a low-code database, such as nocodb? I tried satisfy my need for structures data that way and it works for simple usecases. There are formulas too, but they (like spreadsheets) require some knowledge to set up.

[-] dRLY@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe Cryptpad would be a good option if you need spreadsheets more than documents.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 21 points 1 year ago
[-] Tubulous@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

You sort of have one but not really. You can launch it from the Android Proton Drive app. Granted it then launches it into a web browser, but GrapheneOS/Vanadium seems to handle it well. Would also prefer an app, or allow me to use Standard Notes as the client and sync with my Proton account.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

I can't seem to find the option in the proton drive app.

[-] Tubulous@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Ah you are right - I had created the Proton Doc on the web and launched it after from Android after. I did not actually create the file in Android. Just checked and the option is not there for me either. Maybe next update? Still would prefer the ability to use Standard Notes as the client, similar to how I can with SimpleLogin today.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm still figuring out proton. I'm trying to switch most of my account over to proton. You use the simple login app? Doesn't proton pass have that ability as well?

[-] Tubulous@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yes - you can use your Proton account to log directly into Simplelogin via web, browser extension, or Android app. I suspect the Proton Pass feature is related to their partnership with Simplelogin but not sure? I actually just noticed the email generation Pass feature this week. Having that integrated into the password manager is really handy. May be time to start using it but migrating password managers is a pain.

[-] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Nice.

This might just be the push to fully switch over from Google.

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.run 6 points 1 year ago

I would need spreadsheets and slideshow presentations as well.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

What would be the benefits of this over Nextcloud, apart from not having to set it up?

[-] Dymonika@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's Nextcloud competition so much as Google Drive competition, which is certainly closed-source.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 1 year ago

Nextcloud doesn't do end-to-end encryption

[-] Dymonika@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder if anyone has made a fork of it that does.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

I think it would be easier to start fresh. Almost everything in nextcloud would break if it couldn't read your data

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Over nextcloud probably the e2ee. I suppose soon they will also integrate this better with email (like you can attach directly and save directly from email), so the seamless integrations with the rest of the products will probably amount to other benefits over time.

[-] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Lack of true open cooperation? Oh wait, you said benefit.... Ease of use? Maybe? And slightly less buggy?

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 1 year ago
[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I imagine it is. Developing something like that in house would take a lot. Probably Collabora or something.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 12 points 1 year ago

Looks like its based on Standard Notes

https://github.com/standardnotes

[-] Drm12@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

I am still waiting for contacts app😔

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

wasn't proton revealed to be bullshitting about privacy recently?

edit: swiss courts compelled protonmail to log IPs, keep fingerprints of browsers and disclose them to authorities. there is no privacy.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

And they specifically logged and delivered data about freedom fighters and environmentalists, so there's some bias on Proton's hand there.

[-] tuhriel@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

If I have to choose between a company that freely sells and uses all my data versus a company that e2e encrypts my data and only complies with police and intelligence agency if it is specifically mandated by a swiss judge (and are fighing against it[1]), my money is definitely on the later

Is it perfect? Probably not. - Does it match my thread model? Definitely yes!

Also their privacy policy [2] allows to make a pretty well informed decision and map it against your thread model

And by the way, here's the statement of the ceo regading the activist: https://proton.me/blog/climate-activist-arrest

[1] https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/proton-wins-appeal-in-swiss-court-over-surveillance-laws/47052196 [2] https://proton.me/legal/privacy

[-] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

So... where's the source?

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