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just noticing a lot of very principle anti-genocidists very suddenly changing their focus, it is almost as if some pattern can be discerned through ignoring their statements and watching their behavior

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 43 points 4 months ago

man i hate this site sometimes

“just noticing” that antigenocidalists… are still against the same thing they always have been, and are just using the same language that’s in the current news cycle in order to communicate it, same as you OP.

[-] aaa999@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

biden, whose brain is mush and body is turning to dust before our eyes, should simply use his infinite power to create peace in the middle east

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 34 points 4 months ago

not what i said. straw man, just like your whole post.

[-] SOMETHINGSWRONG@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s honestly hilarious how these liberals are mentally incapable of getting it.

If they genuinely do not see how Democrats have been the steadfast accomplice of the fascist “Overton ratchet,” they are either malicious or incompetent.

Sure copy and paste that list of Biden accomplishments again. As if the sweeping failures of the Dems aren’t well known at this point. Glass Steagall. PATRIOT. Citizens United. Obamacare. Kavanaugh. Roe vs Wade. The dismantling of SAVE.

Keep appeasing the literal fucking fascists yall claim to be such an existential threat. Because appeasement totally works, that’s why liberals keep doing it!

Like, yall know these fuckers play buddy buddy with each other in D.C.? The only ones willing to call out the bullshit of being friendly in the halls and calling for your death in the chamber are Squad members.

Yes I’m fucking voting Biden you exhausting dense insufferable fascist enablers. And I’m going to laugh my ass off when they throw your asses in the same camp as me.

[-] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It is a more palpable talking point to the more center leaning Democrats. Some people can convince themselves Biden did not have a hand in the Gaza genocide, but cannot deny the debate we all just saw. I am going to vote in a way that will deny Trump a win, but also I can acknowledge that Biden is an extremely weak choice for the primary Democratic candidate.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Exactly. Biden was “geriatric Joe” well before genocide Joe. Before that there was a pointed catchphrase that had to do with busing (legitemately can’t remember what it was, if anyone can help me out).

Biden has basically always been a conservative. Literally it doesn’t matter what your position is, I hope everyone reading this can recognize that if you’re calling anti-genocide folk out for “switching up” over this debate, it probably means you haven’t been paying attention for the last… 81 years.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

With all the things Joe accomplished in the last 4 years, he isn't as weak of a choice as one might think.

[-] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 3 points 4 months ago

To be honest, I don't think the policies and actions Biden's cabinet made outweigh the fact that he directly signed off on the continuation of the genocide in Gaza. But that is just my opinion.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When push comes to shove, libs on lemmy punch left at strawmen they created. Sorry your candidate looks so weak to everyone that even the media cycle is about it.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago

The thing is that Trump is even more of a geriatric, and actively endorses genocide. On top of all of his other bullshit.

Yet it is only a problem when the Democrats do it.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yes it's true the left supports Trump. The American political binary has rotted your brain. It's time for ALL Americans left of fascist to demand more from both parties. Democrats are the ones clutching defeat from the jaws of victory election after election.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Yet it is only a problem when the Democrats do it.

you can clean your own house the way you want; but not other people's houses.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Progressive Democrats are losing primary seats to AIPAC funded pro-genocide Democrats but these assholes still think the left should toe the line and vote blue.

When are liberals going to do something for the left?

[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Imagine being mad and clapping back at people who have been pointing out bidens complicity and support of a genocide...

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

People are posting right now about a thing that's in the news cycle right now? Say it ain't so!

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

Is everything a monolith to everyone all the time?

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago

Why are you surprised that people are talking about the current news cycle? Is it seriously crazy that people who saw the debate are concerned?

Do you legitimately think that people who have been anti-genocide have suddenly given up their anti-genocide stance to talk about the current news topic?

And is someone who is anti-genocide supposed to be pro-geriatric, and therefore being anti-geriatric is pro genocide? It seems like you are creating a mutually exclusive false dichotomy.

The message you are trying to push only works because you didn’t put anti-genocide on the other computer chip. You made a strawman.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

libs, if you wanna be mad: go be mad at your shitty politician, not the ones criticizicing him. ask why your pet politician can't stop signing money to israel instead of turning anti-genocide people into a stawman for some reason?

nooooooo, obviously the right thing to do is just pandering to conservatives then acting entitled to leftist support, right?

[-] el_bhm@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Ask putin to stop sending people into the meat grinder.

Oh wait, ya cant.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Harder to get Americans to care about a president committing genocide than about a president being senile. I'm critical of him for both reasons and don't make a secret about it.

Everyone who's not self-deluding can see that his senility is a problem, including mainstream publications like the NYT. The fact that that includes some people who were critical of him before is not exactly surprising.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I mean I thought it was a somewhat common opinion that Biden should only run for one term?

The dropout thing only came up now because some party leaders mentioned it again (way too late)

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Please take a deep breath and realize how absolutely pathetic it looks when you can't accept that supporting genocide is immoral, or that Biden's appearance can be explained by him having a cold. No "tanky" on Lemmy gives a single fuck who you do or don't vote for. You're frustrated with the wrong people.

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