Between “Democrats say ‘Vote’” and “Democrats do nothing to fight back,” they didn’t vote in 2016.
This Supreme Court is a result of that inaction.
Congratulations on demonstrating how voter abstention hands the government to Republicans.
Let’s not do that any more.
We had 8 good years before that and didn't set up any protections.
With a heavily divided legislature that only just passed the ACA before it exploded.
You had the first 2 years of Obama. Obama's thanks for the ACA was voters not showing up and losing the house of representatives for year 3 and 4. And again for year 5 and 6. And then both the house and Senate in years 7 and 8. So no you didn't have 8 years with Obama, you had 2 years with Obama because voters did not show up. Congress is what passes laws and has power. They even shut down the freaking government under Obama.
Only Congress can increase the number of Justices on the Supreme Court. We had two years of congressional majority in the last twenty. They focused on healthcare.
How could they have possibly predicted that they’d need to expand and pack the Supreme Court to prevent the next President from becoming a dictator?
They focused on healthcare.
And they gave us Romneycare
And even that was a monumental task. One vote away in the Senate, and that one guy got rid of the single payer option for the cost of his vote. Joe Lieberman if you want to look him up, the guy who started no labels political party (without a platform).
More people (as a percentage of the eligible voting population) voted in 2016 than 2012, and more in 2020 than in 2016.
Finger wagging at people for criticizing the current ruling party (which is sending weapons to a country that is using them to commit genocide) instead of recognizing that we live in an undemocratic system is taking it out on the wrong people. Clinton literally won more votes in the election you're saying people didn't vote hard enough in. It's spitting in the face of everyone whose votes were shat on by the Electoral College to turn around and blame the people who were disenfranchised.
I get your point, but only 48% of registered Democrats voted in 2016. 25% were abstention due to dislike of the candidate.
Unfortunately, more Democrats need to vote than Republicans, because of the disproportionate weight of Republican states’ electoral votes.
I’m not seeing where in those links it says only 48% of registered Democrats voted? If I’m missing it please point it out. The overall turnout was about 60% of eligible voters, so Democrats pulling in less than that and STILL getting more votes would be shocking.
Getting angry at voters for not voting hard enough after turnout increases every election cycle should illustrate that yelling at people to vote harder isn’t a solution, it’s a stopgap. It doesn’t change that it’s an intentionally undemocratic system, and it doesn’t prevent the exact same “the person with less votes wins” result from happening again.
Abby Martin has something to say about that ..
That’s great. She’s an idealist. How do we abolish the Supreme Court when we can’t even get congressional majority for more than two years every twenty?
AOC Says She'll File Articles Of Impeachment Amid SCOTUS 'Corruption Crisis'
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's threat of impeachment comes after the court ruled on Trump's immunity argument.
I’m all for it. I just have no clue how she expects to win that vote with House minority.
Right. Voting third party truly is trying nothing, since we already know it's pissing in the wind.
No you don't understand voting is doing nothing and not voting is a heroic action worthy of Stalin himself
maybe because neoliberalism is not the right tool to fight back against fascism
Not pictured:
Not voting causes fascism to happen faster.
Tankies betraying Anarchists instead of fighting fascism.
"Tankies" are largely accelerationists of a few flavors unified by one desire: watch the United States burn to the ground. You shouldn't take their viewpoint seriously except as adversaries.
God you guys are as obsessed with tankies as republicans are obsessed with trans people.
First, can you define a tankie? Secondly, can you tell me how many tankies you think live in the US?
As did everyone. There's no study showing that the amount of rapes per soldier by the soviets is higher than that of other nations.
Wow, what an incredibly normal and sane thing to say right at the top of your comment history.
Edit: There's genocide denial and blaming NATO for Ukraine too. I'm not even slightly surprised. This is what we refer to as "entirely predictable." Get some fucking help and exit your information silo. I keep my information ecosystem healthy by talking to people IRL, and I recommend you do the same.
"It's soooo exhausting to vote one day every two years, so might as well allow as many republicans as possible to become firmly entrenched in every level of government, able to sabotage any attempt to push the inertia in any other direction."
Here's a novel idea: you are not just electing one charismatic godking messiah with a magic political wand to the executive office every four years, but an entire system of appointees and employees.
Then there's Congress, and the Supreme Court, and state governors and state congresses, city mayors and city council, school board, etc.
One side strives for reason and science, the other is scorched earth anti-science anti-reason ignorant hysteria. And you keep giving them enough power to thwart everything.
Tune out and stop watching the infotainment bullshit designed to keep us outraged and polarized every minute of the goddamned day, just show up at the polls each first Tuesday in November and vote Democrat. Once every two years is enough.
At this point, you have enough information to do this with great confidence that it is the correct and sane choice.
Let's get our collective heads out of the Middle Ages peasant mindset.
Once every two years is enough.
No. In a democracy, it should not be "enough" to partake in elections once every two years.
Let's get our collective heads out of the Middle Ages peasant mindset.
At least the peasants rebelled every once in a while when the lords fucked them over too much.
Ok, let's point out how poorly timed this meme is.
The election isn't until November. It's July.
We did vote, and we can't vote for any state or district that we are not in. Democrats won 2020, and avoided total disaster in 2022.
Americans cannot and never have had the ability to vote in SCOTUS.
The last chance the Democrats had at preventing this shit show was under Obamas first term when he could have briefly stacked the courts.
Americans did have the ability to vote in SCOTUS. it's called the general election. and they did in 2016, except democratic voters didn't feel like it. so now you get 6-3 decisions that are dismantling the whole country.
Yeah, the FBI director got ahold of Anthony Wiener's laptop because he's a fucking awful dirtbag, and at some point his wife had logged into her work email, so IDENTICAL information from The State Department was on it, so FBI big brain decides to make a big ol press conference to reopen the case against Hillary Clinton days before the election just in case maybe there was more than just duplicate information. Except, he already knew it was all duplicate information. Everyone with a brain new it was all duplicate information.
What a brilliant guy. He deserves a lot more blame than he's ever gotten.
To my American friends: Please don't give up hope yet! As the GOP is very closely communicating with Fidesz, they're banking on activist burnout. They want to break you, so you not only won't do anymore activism, but to maybe even join them finally in the hopes of getting something from them finally. After the next Trump victory, they'll likely also copy one another thing from Hungary, namely the firing of leftists, to force them to convert to conservatism.
I'm actually tired of being blackmailed with fascism.
In my country we had maybe five elections in a row where the premise was "it is us or fascism". And yes, fascism is there but... COULD YOU ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS GOOD AND WORK FOR IMPROVING YOUR PEOPLE LIVES!!? I don't want my choice to be die shot down or slowly being impoverished until life is no longer any good. I want to actually have a good life, and enabling "just not fascism (tm)" is not doing it.
its as if someone is voting facists in or maybe just not voting to keep them out. wierd.
Why would liberals lift a finger against the very people that will protect their precious status quo for them?
Democrats say "vote!" -> not enough people actually vote
Actually, the recent record turnouts should really be getting you to pay attention to how the elections are structured. It turns out, the way districts and the electoral college are organized means that where you get out the vote matters. Telling people to vote harder doesn't make those systemic obstacles go away.
Democrats are the fighting back. Primaries are your opportunity to move the needle even further left.
I remember when the needle only barely started to move toward Bernie before the democratic party super-geniuses swiftly moved in to make a whole bunch of candidates drop to put their full support behind decrepit Biden right before Super Tuesday while funding a PAC to keep Warren in the race to split votes with Bernie while running their media machine in overtime talking over and over about the "Biden miracle" after the endorsement in South Carolina gave Biden his only victory up to that point. You know, South Carolina, which didn't even end up voting for Biden during the actual presidential election.
Are these the democrats who are fighting back? Well, they're certainly fighting off the leftists with all their might, that's for sure.
The consequences was losing the election in 2020, no? I mean Democrats are really, really, really bad at fighting back. Like bringing pool noodles to a gun fight bad. But saying they do nothing is a bit much.
"They go low, we go high", has absolutely rotted Dem brains. Going low has worked pretty fucking well.
It's not really a consequence, more like a slight slow down of their plans. All Democrats really do is not make things worse cause as soon as they "try" to make things better they run into some problems that you know the Republicans would never let stop them. So that just means losing elections is just a slow down rather than a serious consequence for Republicans cause eventually people will get tired of the Democrats not being able to do anything and end up either not voting or voting Republican.
Honestly the longer this left infighting goes on the more hopeless I get. This isn't going to work. The corpse of genocide Joe is just as bad a candidate as Hillary Clinton was in 2016. And I hate to say it but that means the fascist is probably going to win.
So when Trump beats Biden in November what country should I move to to be safe? Australia seems like a decent pick so does New Zealand. I kind of think Vietnam might be fun. What are y'all's thoughts.
You know what? Don't vote. You've done basically nothing but agitate for people to hand the election to Trump, and it's obvious you're either too privileged to be hurt by that or too stupid to realize that you will be. I hope that if he wins, you can look at all the people who lose their rights at best and die at worst, and feel really good about taking a stand or whatever in arguably the worst possible election to do that in in decades. I would love for there to be a genuinely progressive candidate with a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but there isn't. A progressive third party candidate (and Jill Stein is not it) is not going to win. That's the reality we live in, and anyone pretending it's not is either a liar, a child, or a moron. I have too much to lose by throwing my vote in the trash, but you do you.
You know you can be critical of the Dems and still vote for them. Everybody should be critical of all our politicians. Always.
Voting will not solve our problems, but it can buy us time allowing us to work to change things outside electoral politics.
Two days old and the memes already aging well as Bidens campaign says they don't want to reform the Supreme Court.
Voting is doing something. The problem is when the people you vote for undermine some of the reasons you voted for them.
The problem is that Dems have had control of all 3 (presidency, house of reps, and Senate) for only 4 years of the last 24 years. When you don't have all 3 you are forced to reach across the aisle.
*If you include Bill Clinton then it's 6 years of the last 32 years. If you include Bush senior and Reagan, then it's 6 years of the last 44 fucking years.
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