I’m not an American but my impression is the Supreme Court is mainly designed as a last bulwark to ensure the US never under any circumstances ever does anything remotely good and this isn’t exactly improving that impression.
It's simply an institution meant to interpret laws and their legality. All of that goes out the window when the people in said institution are politically charged, corrupt, or make bad arguments.
Corrupt doesn't even begin to describe it these days. They ruled recently that they are legally allowed to accept bribes, so long as the bribe comes after the decision is made.
The laws of the United States of America are literally for sale by conservative judges. This breach of justice is actively dismantling a cornerstone of our countries successful history.
Oh, the irony, that the "conservative" party is the one radically destroying the highest court in America. Their supporters can wave all the flags they want this week, but what they represent is actively destroying this country.
It's FOR the people BY the people, not for the highest bidder. at least, that's how it used to be before Trump's presidency.
You said “or” there when really it should be “and”
Considering the context, I took it as an inclusive or.
Ironic considering everything they're "overturning" is former Supreme Court rulings that granted all these rights.
To be consistently evil you need checks and balances. This is the system at work.
They interpret the law. And when existing law has bad policy outcomes people get made that 9 unelected lawyers in robes aren't legislating for us. When the out comes are good people don't hear about them or forget them.
Ehhhhh you’re kind of ignoring in power/out of power dynamics here and the overwhelmingly conservative slant they’ve adopted the last few years.
The truth is the winners have already won, and no one else ever will. They do not intend to make the American Dream obtainable for anyone but Those Approved.
It's a big club. You aren't in it. I'm not in it. everyone you or I know isn't in it. You know when your in it, because you benefit from this. If you will likely lose benefits, like all of us will, you aren't in the club.
How do you fight those in power uninterested in giving up that power?
You take it from them.
The truth is the winners have already won
this. it's all a big game and there are only winners and losers. good and evil are just ideas. if you believe in something, you go for the throat to make it reality. otherwise, you're just a loser on the internet bitching about it. more of you need to wake up to this fact.
I miss you George Carlin.
The first time I saw a headline about this, just saying that the Supreme Court overturned "the Chevron doctrine" my initial thought was that I have no idea wtf they did but if the votes went 6-3 I know it can't be anything good.
Much to my consternation I appear to have been right.
I've known this was coming for years. Once Goursich was added it was known to those watching the courts exactly what would happen.
Before one of the hosts did the typical "become an unwanted sexual advance asshole" like everyone seems to become after they gain some fame, Opening Arguments podcast was a great way to learn about how depressing our future will be.
It's absolutely fucking disgusting that no matter what the outcome SHOULD be, you can almost always call how this court will go simply by asking "what benefits the ultra wealthy and what have conservatives wanted forever?"
Yup, that Open Args deep dive into chevron deference was an eye opener and called this one years ago. Sucks AT turned out to be That Guy.
My perspective having known about Chevron before Friday is that while this is a big development for admin law people seem to be overstating the impact it will likely have. Agencies like the EPA, FDA, etc can still make rules as before now courts just have to judge arguments on interpretation impartially, like they did before the SCOTUS made the doctrine in the 80s aiding Reagan. The SCOTUS hasn't even applied it since 2016.
This sucks ass. It’s hard to not become blackpilled from Friday’s rulings.
Is there a word to be People's Will pilled? Cause that's where I'm heading.
Personally, I take comfort that the executive will be weakened as it looks more and more likely that we're about to have a wannabe dictator coming to office.
It'll only be weak for the presidents they don't like
The illusion of democracy has entirely worn off. When are we taking to the streets with guns?
Democracy isn't when appointed officials always side with other appointed officials.
It's when appointed officials side with the people, and the people are educated and thoughtful.
Or so I'm told. I've never actually seen one. It's like a unicorn.
When are we taking to the streets with guns?
After we disarm the extremely weaponized cops, military, etc... And we don't even need guns.
the us will be a true shithole in about a decade.
the us will be a true shithole in about a decade.
Will be?
I haven't had any interest in visiting the place since Bush was president.
But both sides are the same.
God damn it, i wish Clinton had won so bad. It would be the exact opposite and corporations wouldn't be getting this free reign. Fuck.
I wish Gore had won, every other headline wouldn’t be about the impending climate doom and what we’re not doing to stop it
Oh wait, he DID win and the fucking court stole it
Don't forget that 3 of the current justices (Barrett, roberts, kavanaugh) were on bush's legal team in 2000 Bush vs Gore
I wish the democrats didn’t force her, the candidate that was predicted to be weakest against Trump and the only one likely to lose, through the primary with every trick they could. The democrats tried to skew and steer their own voters and we all lost because of it.
She demolished sanders in the primary. Get over it. The belief that she only won because of some dirty tricks or that sanders was screwed is just nonsense. I wish he had won, and i voted for him, but unfortunately reality tells a much different story. This belief he was screwed is no different than the belief that trump was screwed in 2020.
The delegates all predicated their votes to make it look like Hillary had already won before the elections even started
The only one likely to lose? I think you have your facts confused on that one.
I don’t. She was predicted to be the weakest against Trump during the primaries.
Clinton is super pro-corporate, what are you on about? She was unelectable and never should've run, she's directly responsible for Trump.
It totally makes sense to have a bunch of elected non experts go through the minutae of federal departments and how to implement policy. /s
Think you meant non elected.
But the point is that policy decisions aren't to be made by courts or agencies. They are to be made by an elected legislature, informed by the Congregational Research Services. To ensure the separation of powers.
Then the Executive agencies are to be tasked with enforce of the law. And if conflict should arise in the understanding of the law the judiciary is to interpret the law. And while judges are not experts in everything they are the experts in statutory interpretation.
Truly, the best democracy money can buy. "This was the supreme court", all of which was appointed by different presidents in different time periods, so a direct consequence of political will
Holy shit i can't believe someone is trying to both sides this. Trump got three nominees, and put 3 far right wing people on the court. If Clinton had put three people on, this would have all gone absolutely been like left wing of the court now, and these people would have gone the other way. And we still have morons clinging to the nonsense that it's the fault of both sides. Amazing.
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