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[-] wwaxen@lemmy.world 153 points 2 months ago

Time for malicious compliance: "Kids, today we're talking about two girls got their dad drunk and raped him to get pregnant.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 84 points 2 months ago

They'll have to be more creative, because the demand is for teachers to tell kids about the Bible's place in U.S. history.

So I think teaching them about this might be more appropriate: https://www.npr.org/2018/12/09/674995075/slave-bible-from-the-1800s-omitted-key-passages-that-could-incite-rebellion

They might also teach about this man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago

Or how about how the bible was used as an excuse to try to keep Americans dumb and ignorant. An excellent example of exactly where the Bible fits into American history.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately, these people don't believe in evolution either.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

You say "was" like it's not ongoing.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

You should hit the erotic poetry section of the Bible, just to be sure you get all the good parts in.

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[-] zetafish@fedia.io 93 points 2 months ago

Some neighboring states that aren't christo-fascist are about to get some really good teachers. Welcome to Colorado!

[-] Winbombs@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Except teachers here are paid shit and there's little affordable housing.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 58 points 2 months ago

Reading the Memorandum, it doesn't specify what Bible is to be used. Perhaps malicious compliance uses a "alternative" version?

Also found this from the Satanic Temple (who hopefully is on top of this) -

If a public school permits the distribution of religious materials to the student body, they have opened a limited public forum and are obligated to allow religious materials from other faiths. This principle applies to other forms of school-sponsored religious expression as well.

Also funny how these hypocrites go on and on about indoctrination, and then want to indoctrinate every kid in the state by law.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

It's always projection.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What good does dumbing them down by defunding education have if you don't indoctrinate the new cattle?

They're farming GOP idiots.

Keep em poor, uneducated and breeding without a way to abort and in the future no contraception

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's always projection.

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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago

So I have friends in Texas who have lost their license for one reason or another. This has a wider range of effect than most realize. When applying for ANY other state licensing, in any other industry, the fact that your teaching license was revoked, no matter what the reason was (it won't say why on reports) it's a mark against you when applying for others. All they see is oh this person HAD a state license and it got revoked so, maybe we shouldn't grant this other one.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

It's plainly illegal, and I'm sure the goal is for SCOTUS to take it up and make it legal.

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

It’s plainly illegal

SCOTUS will just ignore any precedents and give the states the right to do what they want.

We’ve already seen this playbook in action.

We’ve been fools for relying on precedent.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

That is certainly their hope. And there is no question it will happen if Trump gets back in.

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[-] Samvega 9 points 2 months ago

You don't rely on logic and decency. You require them, and you sanction those who act harmfully because they ignore them.

We must stop tolerating intolerance.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

The goal is, here, to have an accurate view of American history

By teaching bronze age fairy tales set in the Middle East.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

Surely this could backfire in so many hilarious ways?

  • Teach the parts that conservatives don't do, and teach your class to call out injustice everywhere.
  • Teach the bible in Aramaic or Ancient Hebrew, and give the kids 30 mins of study time to learn whatever they want from it.
  • Use it as an exercise to teach that many parts were written thousands of years ago, and doesn't have current medical or societal advancements, so that many parts might be up to interpretation.
  • Compare it to Islam, Judaism, and other sects of Christianity - and teach that they're basically the same thing and that everyone should get along.
  • Reference that the pope said years ago that even nonbelievers that led a good life would be offered a seat in heaven, so be nice and it'll all be fine.
[-] huzzahunimpressively@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Also you should explain to your child students what is a prostitute

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[-] abbiistabbii 32 points 2 months ago

Teachers can make this backfire by teaching kids about how Jesus said, among other things:

  • Rich people don't go to heaven
  • Jesus's answer to religious people not wanting to see things was for the people complaining to pluck out their eyes.
  • How Jesus told his followers to sell their shit and give it to the poor.

All things republicans hate because it goes against their ideals. Also they can talk about how in Acts it says Christians lived communally or just read James 5:1-6 verbatim.

But I guarantee the schools will force their teachers only to read parts of the bible that the state demand, because it's not about Christianity, it's about using religion to control people.

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[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 31 points 2 months ago

Oh just fuck off.

[-] zazilicious@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

I'm so fucking tired of the US. Shit just always seems to get worse, and for every little victory, we take another huge leap towards a fascist theocracy.

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[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Can I teach ANY part of the bible?

[-] Zink@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago

I’m waiting for the malicious compliance stories. Any Oklahoma teachers reading, maybe reach out to The Satanic Temple for ideas.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War

Now I’m really afraid to find out what this includes

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 months ago

Which is a hilarious Freudian slip on their part. Who is it that they think don't want to teach about the Civil War? Could it be the ones who instead refer to it as the "war of northern aggression" and try to erase the context of slavery by saying it was about "states rights"?

[-] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What they failed to realise is teachers can have a unique ability to make kids hate a subject.

If you force them to do it, they can do it really badly without it being obvious.

I can imagine reading the Bible word for for in monotone from day 1 won't be a good experience.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Just read only the parts about incest and rape and waiting for all the parents to complain

[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Any of you remember Kitzmiller v. Dover? It was a case that essentially ruled that teaching ID/creationism was a theological doctrine and thus couldn't be included in the biology curriculum of schools across the country. While the issues here at not the same (teaching creationsim vs mandatory bible studies), they have the same ideological underpinnings. Unless we're talking about Sunday school*, schools must remain secular institutions where discussions of religions are from a neutral perspective in regards to the humanities. As to regards to a hypothetical Supreme Court case: considering how ultra-conservative the Supreme Court has become in recent years, I fear that they might side the theocrats.

*Are those still a thing?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Every time Democrats have an opportunity to increase the number of seats on the SCOTUS, they punt.

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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago

Oh I can’t wait for the lawsuits to follow this bullshit.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I'm still pissed we are spending tax payer money defending this shit. We are doing something similar in La.

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[-] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Looking at recent decisions, it's going to go badly for those of us who believe in the anti-establishment clause.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Congress shall make no law, this actually could be interpreted quite literally by the courts that it is perfectly acceptable for a state to not only establish a religion but to criminalize other beliefs.

I think this would be a 5-4 decision with SCOTUS. I think Barrett would be against it, because she is Catholic and would see that her beliefs may not be the ones promoted. Kavanaugh and Roberts could be a toss up.

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[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

Today we read again from fiction.

[-] dhcmrlchtdj__@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

And this is the same cunt that was blaming "the radical left" for "politicizing" the death of a child under his care. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/23/us/oklahoma-nonbinary-student-superintendent.html

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 months ago

I'd love to see parents flabbergasted by their children refusing the shellfish daddy worked hard to buy, and making sure their clothes don't use mixed fabrics.

[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Then teach the parts of Isaiah which show clearly he held in contempt the people, of his day, who were doing what the "Jews" who convicted benJoseph, did, & what the "Christians" who identify as Republicans are doing now.

Teach how benJoseph called biblical-legalists "Hypocrites!" right in the bible.

Teach them all the things in their own bible which identify the "Christian" fascism as being the enemy of their own root-guru/Christ.

Here is Isaiah 1 from their bible, so you can see that what Moses fought against a couple millenia earlier ( if one happens to remember that stuff from other readings ), happens this time not within the people of Egypt, but within the Israelites..

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaiah+1&version=AMP

Obviously, now it's happening within the "Christians".

Notice, here, that nearly-all teachings on Hypocrites! are in the New Testament..

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=hypocrite&version=AMP

& here is a phrase, right in their bible, of the whole "they call themselves Jews, but are gaslighting" sentiment,

which, as anybody with integrity would understand, is an accusation which can be placed on many of ANY human religion, including the Dharmic religions ( including my own beloved Vajrayana ), including the Abrahamic religions, including the people who claim Science but embody/enforce Scientism's gaslighting, etc..

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+2%3A9&version=AMP

It is a particular kind of dishonesty, and it isn't limited-to any tradition or culture, no matter how convenient to some ideologies that would be.


Find all the parts of the bible that contradict the gaslighters who call themselves "Christian", & teach only those bits.

WHEN teaching the now-legally-required-in-some-jurisdictions "10 Commandments", add this & discuss how this applies to the people who legislate in our countries:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A10&version=AMP


"Those who live by the sword, die by the sword".

Turn their own book's honest-truths against their falseness.


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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

when the federal government makes everything a state's rights issue we get fifty states doing whatever the hell they want

obvious at this point Biden has either lost the reins or is intentionally letting the nation slip

very coincidental that we lost women's rights and we have a huge surge of religious oppression at the same time a prolife religious right leaning conservative democrat gets at the helm

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

The guy responsible for killing Roe v Wade literally took credit for it on TV yesterday.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

I don't know that there is much Biden can do. The Federal government can't just tell a state no, they have to take them to court and prove that they are violating federal law. And we now have gerrymandered-to-hell legislatures violating federal law right and left and there's only so much time and so many resources.

I'm not going to tout Biden as the greatest president ever or anything, but I can't blame him for this. He's not responsible for putting Ryan Walters in his position and he doesn't have the power to get rid of him.

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[-] xhieron@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

That kind of attitude lingers dangerously close to the everything-is-a-conspiracy-by-the-shadowy-cabal line of reasoning. Biden's a Catholic, but it's certainly not "obvious" that he's "intentionally letting the nation slip". You can scroll down barely a page on whitehouse.gov and watch the president commit to restoring the standard of Roe v Wade. It's under the statements in favor of Pride, committing to combating gun deaths, lowering housing costs, and protecting pensions. Joe Biden's executive orders have been the most progressive executive action since Roosevelt.

Here's something a lot of non-religious folks might not know: the evangelical right? They hate Catholics. The MAGAs hate them ideologically, but the ones running the show hate them because the Catholic Church is their competition when it comes to running private schools and otherwise lucrative community support institutions. Biden is absolutely not on their side, theologically or otherwise.

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[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

After reading the rest of your comments, you could've just saved a lot of time by saying you don't know how the government works. And if anyone else happens to read this and think, "Hey that's a good point," no, it isn't. It's ignorant at best, actively malicious at worst. Sounds a whole lot like many of the comments trying to get people not to vote.

[-] card797@champserver.net 26 points 2 months ago

You're going to blame Biden for the stance of conservatives? This is totally wrong. Right wing religious conservatives have been wanting to bring christianity back into schools for over 50 years and they have finally forced it to happen through state laws. Republicans want this and are making it happen.

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