Boy that would seriously mess with the narrative of this comment section if that were the case

Edit: oh no

wasn't this specifically developed to assist in helping to better identify victims of human trafficking?

The author of the article you linked doesn't seem to believe that.

There are plenty of women who live like this now. It's a cultural thing, not a timeline thing. I had a roommate in college who would wake up before dawn to do her makeup so nobody would see her without it.

(Also high society women certainly didn't make their own breakfasts... well, ever, but especially not hundreds of years ago)

I love when your wife doesn't wear a bra. It does make life great.

hun, step outside, I need to see if I need to bring a jacket...

Yep, looks like it was fooled by the fake contour on her right cheek.

The real challenge is to use the app on somebody not wearing makeup.

Thanks, Margot Robbie. You are a pillor of Lemmy society!

I might be the minority group here, but I prefer my wife without makeup. After our second date I told her I'd rather see her face as it is, than it be hidden under a mask. Everyone has flaws, it's what makes us unique and there is beauty in that alone. She hasn't worn makeup since and were pushing 2 decades of marriage now.

On the surface it seems reasonable, but it tends to have misogynistic undertones, especially if said towards strangers.

It's like when the paparazzi publishes photos of celebrities with no makeup without their consent. If her makeup skills are good, she gets accused of "deceiving" people about her real age/looks. If her makeup skills are bad, she just gets called ugly.

It's kind of creepy to do anything to a photo without consent. I'm a dude with plugs, and it'd be a little off-putting if a stranger I didn't know digitally removed my ear rings to see what I'd look like.

This is how I present myself. You can see me without ear rings or makeup when I want you too.

I like that you asked. While I don't hold a strong opinion on it, I think you could argue that it is about consent.

I will argue more strongly than I feel because I think it helps to understand the point. (Assuming the person wearing makeup is a woman)

If you don't know the woman, why do you care if she wears makeup and how she looks without? It seems like there isn't a legitimate reason for it without it being a toxic reason, like "look! she isn't prettier than me!" Vibe. Which is toxic for both people. Now it was a man who made the app. Now there is the hating of women for wearing makeup reasons but let's ignore those. (Case: Unknown feelings of the woman)

If you know the woman and you don't know how she looks without makeup, then that is clearly a decision made by the woman. Why do you have the right to expose her in a way that she doesn't want to be. I mean some women don't care if you see their tummies and others would rather die. Should you have the right to expose a woman's tummy? (Case: Implied decision to not show herself like that)

If you know the woman and you want to argue that you have a justified interest in how she looks without makeup because she is a potential Partner (if she is a partner, you probably know already anyway). You could easily argue that you have the same legitimate reason to see her naked but obviously you wouldn't think that it is a legitimate reason.

In other words, you shouldn't care and it is kinda toxic to care; you don't have consent to see them like it otherwise you would; you have no right to know.

Indeed, which is why I'm laughing

Older guy here. I have noticed that now when I look a beautiful young women I feel envy rather than lust. My thoughts go to wishing I was young again rather than wishing I could "tap dat ass" or whatever. Realizing that made kinda sad, NGL.

The sad thing is that's basically what people like Andrew Tate get notorious for- A man telling other men what women think.

I've never heard of a major female influencer telling lonely incel types how to get a girlfriend. But then I suppose she would be telling them to do things like "listen to what she's saying" and "care about her problems" and that's not what they want to hear.