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If he can lay down a four-belt balancer from memory, you are the side hoe to his Factorio addiction.
But do they know the difference between Istanbul and Constantinople?
That's nobody's business but the Turks.
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How they hell would anyone not know the difference? It’d be like not knowing the difference between Taylor Swift and Madonna.
Most people don’t have a clue. I remember mentionning the word byzantine at the dinner table when I was a teenager and was told “you play too many games and read too many books, this is reality, there’s no such thing as a byzantine”.
When I showed them the wikipedia page about it, “it’s not because it’s on the internet that it’s true”. Yet here we are, in 2024, where they are glued to facebook believing some of the wildest things.
Yeah, I've noticed there's this weird cross-section of people who ask "do you believe everything you heard on the internet?" about some pretty established facts, and blindly believing Fox News.
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I mean, there was no such thing as a byzantine. That's a name we came up with in the modern era to help distinguish between "roman" empires.
To expand on that it was during the enlightenment in the early renaissance where people had a boner over the Roman Empire but still thought the medieval Roman Empire (Byzantine) to not be cool. So they came up with a new name for it. A declining empire that had a massive beauracracy, spoke Greek and had the wrong brand of Christianity (Orthodox) is not nice enough to create a glorious image like the Pax Romana did.
This of course made a lot of people upset in the then Ottoman empire since they identified as Romans but were not counted as Romans according to western people. Think "You're not Romans with a glorious history, you're Byzantines" even though they clearly were.
For extra fun the Byzantine/Roman distinction is also unfair.
- Eastern Rome always spoke Greek, even at 200AD.
- Orthodox and Catholic were the same pre-schism.
- During the decline of the Western Empire the capital was moving a lot anyway so "based in Rome" was soon outdated.
- During the decline Italy was just another province anyway so "based in Italy" was soon outdated.
- They were literally the same thing except one half managed to fuck their shit up while getting invaded by hordes of tribes at the same time.
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Yeah, it's a pivotol part of European history that has ramifications to the present day. It's like not knowing the difference between England and a second thing.
As a high school graduate I can totally tell you the history of Europe.
So first it was 1066, then the Victorians, then the second world war, then it was now. That's it, all of European history. Now perhaps some Americans think another historically important event occurred, but it can't have, because no one mentioned it.
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I know what the difference is and don't play those map video games.
But I do like shoving little soldiers around the table top. And the only thing historic about those is that most of them are no longer being produced.
Big maps, little movement, lots of stuff to track; Hearts Of Iron is made for folks like you and me.
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Just paint a map on your skin and ask "conquer me"...
original?
Clearly photoshopped, can’t be. Words are not aligned
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It is ABSURD how long Turkey's focus tree takes in HOI4 unless you're okay with making Ataturk cry.
And how could you be?
The problem with the Ottomans is that they just try to walk it in.
Doesn't sound like you have an Iron Heart with that attitude
Who doesn't know the difference? One is green, the other is purple, it's simple.
One has a good sword unit early game, the other gets grenadiers mid-to-late game.
Um, it's called RTS. Helloooo.
It's probably called a GSG (Grand Strategy Game). Almost all "map painting simulators" are GSGs.
Pretty sure they're talking about something more like Crusader Kings or Europa Universalis than Age of Empires.
Here in europe both are taught in elementary school.
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Not in all of Europe, they completely ignored everything west of Germany in the medieval period here.
But both are east of Germany, so why are they ignored? Or did you mean that they only focused on stuff that happened west of Germany?
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Not always true, sometimes it's Elden Ring
Oh yeach there is that one eu4 streamer with a girlfriend. Truly a rare breed.
It does not. Why do you think all the rich people resort to drugs and shit? They're just chasing that dragon because they've forgotten what it's all about.
I don't get it. They're totally different things.
Ultimately they're both just large territories controlled by the same city.
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