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[-] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 5 months ago

Well. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Now your org gets to pay for cleanup if they don't just tell the 2 that got arrested "Good luck, you're on your own now"

What's the correlation with Stonehenge and the fossil fuel industry? No one visiting is going to see the vandalism and think "Maybe I should lessen my personal dependence on fossil fuels.", they're just going to hear how it was this asshole group that happens to be named 'Just Stop Oil'. I highly doubt that's changing anyone's mind (for the better).

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for activism. Hell, I'm all for destructive activism; Block access to oil wells, sabotage infrastructure (preferably in a way that doesn't cause more environmental damage in the process), burn down some private jets. But don't go around being an asshole unrelated to your cause just to get your name out. That's not helping anything.

[-] xilliah@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago

I think it's based on the idea that all attention is good attention, and you pick the lesser of two evils.

What you are suggesting is already the case, but it tends be be less visible. For example did you know about this?

[-] Laconic@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago

If you're willing and able to get arrested for the cause then go assault an oil executive. Maybe light his car on fire. Shut down a pipeline. Block a coal train. Etc. I hate to cricize anymore more committed than I am, but I really think this is counter productive. Attack the actual source of the problem. This is like punching your grandma to stop your dad from hitting your mom.

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

These types of "protestors" are definetly hired by oil execs

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

There were very similar conspiracies popular during the suffragette struggle, the civil rights era, and the gay rights movement. They were all just as embarrassing as this one is now.

This kind of spectacle activism has a long history of creating political change while minimizing violence. Pigeon-holing these brave people as pawns in some MAGA-style conspiracy de-humanizes them and makes it easier to ignore their serious message.

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

Yea, if you're going to spectacle protest target the right people, wtf did some English brick do?

[-] godzilla_lives@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

And yet the oil execs leaking oil into our water systems get off scot-free.

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