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If anyone is has no idea what that means, XL bully is a type of dog.
This might be common knowledge, but I've never heard of it.
From Wikipedia:
The XL Bully was responsible for 10 of the 19 deaths caused by dogs in the UK in the period between 2021 and 2023, and in December 2023, the UK Government added the breed to the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, making it illegal to sell, breed, abandon or have a Bully XL in public without a lead and muzzle in England and Wales.[5]
That dog is so angry looking, like it walks on its own fists, and does pushups.
"Oink!"
Mugshot ass pig
"Ate da catz, 'Ate da postman, 'Ate da neyborz kidz. Simple Az."
That dog looks like it should have an Ankle bracelet, a thick gold chain and be wearing stolen Nikes.
And that one is in the Wikipedia page because it's a champion, meaning a great representative of its breed.
It's such an ugly breed, I've no idea what owners see it in.
So basically the dog is called "Massive Pitbull" but that name is clearly far too coherence, so they changed it to something stupid.
It’s not a rapper then?
Thank you, I thought they were referring to one of my former classmates.
I think that's because it's UK terminology that's not really used in the US.
Owning a dog bred for its lack of remorse when fighting and huge muscles is a winning combo for a Darwin award.
I get the mindset for these people. Their dog is probably never going to go nuts and maul someone, the vast majority will never go nuts and maul someone, it's your big good boi! Its not the animals fault it literally has been bred to be a killer, you didnt train it like that, thats not the environment it lives in... and yeah thats all true but when it goes wrong it goes spectacularly wrong and people die.
Its like people who have pet bears or big cats, like... yeah all the positives and all but its absolutely equipped to kill the fuck out of you should the mood strike it.
The cognitive dissonance these people have is pretty impressive. They have a dog that is famously aggressive, because it's famously aggressive and owning one makes them feel like a big shot / makes them feel safer, and then they say oh he's a big softie. Pick one.
Their dog is probably never going to go nuts and maul someone
No, their dog is probably never going to go nuts and maul someone the dog knows.
The owners have absolutely no idea how they react among strangers.
And that is why those owners who claim their dog is so friendly are so dumb.
At least she got what she wanted. That's all anyone can hope for
Rest in pieces.
I dont think the breed should be banned I think it should be exterminated.
A breeding ban will result in this, without the optics of "the police came into my house and killed my dog!" news articles.
I would be fine with every single one being fixed the second it goes into any vets office for any reason.
I'd be fine if you die too
Aww let me guess your a "bully mom"
Wait until you hear about cars
What does this have to do with anything at all?
I guess I just don't like cars, carry on
Poor girl, couldve been prevented if our governments put proper laws in place requiring dog owners to be licensed, and breeds like this to be trained. Just gonna leave this channel here for anyone that wants to know more about bullies in the uk. (Ik this was in ireland but we have very similar laws)
The calls for murder in these comments is disturbing
The calls for murder in these comments is disturbing
Where? Just scanned through and not a single call for death let alone murder.
Closest I see is one claiming she got what she deserved. But nothing even close to murder.
Murder was the wrong word. Im not talking about people im talking about the breeds. Wishing for an entire breed of dog to be destroyed when their "aggression" is a result of our selective breeding and is something that can absolutely be trained out of them.
Thats why i said licenses need to come back and breeds like that should legally require training, but our government is incompetent so they're taking the easy way out.
So many other dogs are violent and vicious, ive been attacked by smaller dogs way more than i have staffies or bullies. Its just these bigger ones that get the hate because theyre stronger.
OK fair point.
But XLs were intentionally bread as fighting dogs. So while I agree extermination of the breed is cruel.
Encouraging breeder to continue the breed is also unacceptable. And as we do not currently have the ability to change laws in other nations. The current law that requires owners to register and raise the dogs safly. IE using a muzzle. Is likely the best we can do atm.
Unfortunately dogs are legally treated as property. So banning anyone from owning a dog that is less desirable. Basically translates to put the dog down if you cannot find someone willing to follow the new laws.
I'd love the laws on dogs to think of them more as a responsibility then property. But we also have to accept the nation we live in is not going to do that.
I grew up in a time of dog licencing. At that time it was basically a small fee you paid yearly token a dog.
So the idea of making that more effective would be fine by me.
But. I really worry about how such things would be implemented. We have just been through a pretty drastic change in what dog training means. Up until about 10 years ago everything we knew about dogs. Was based on 1930s scientific research.
Very flawed research based on wolves I captivity. As such pretty much all advice given up untill very recently. Was based on that research.
We now know wolves in captivity are not dogs. More importantly they do not act life free wolves.
Huge amounts of training such as alpha leader etc. Was based on wolves suffering stress. We also now know training this way leads to harm to the mental health of the dog.
For dangerous dogs. Upto date training is needed. But I am very uncomfortable with laws relating to have every day dogs not bread for fighting are trained. Because we know. Any rules we come up with now. Are likely to take forever to change if we learn they harm the dogs mental health later.
We do not hate bigger dogs. No one wants to limit Irish walf hounds or st Bernard's. All huge dogs.
The difference is some dogs are physically bread to be able to kill. Others not. If you are attacked by a smaller dog. Or even a labradorite etc. Size dose not lead to them killing you.
Heck even a rotviler a dog bread with muscle and a strong jaw. Is entirly legal. And has no seriose desire to ban. Because they are not bread to be aggressive.
XL bully's and many other banned dogs are not banned due to size. They are banned as the whole breed was created as a marketing gimmick. To sell to unthinking owners looking for a weapon on 4 legs.
And just like anything else sold in that manner.. restrictions are applied. That basically say. Store it safly. Or you must notmow one. If you ow an XL bully. Options exist that do not require you to kill it. House it safly at you ow cost. Or find a ho e that is willing to do so.
When a small dog bites you. You are there to take the owner to court. As you always have the right to do.
When the dogs banned bite you. That is often not an option. As the dog is able to kill you. Most domestic dogs are not able and or not bread with the desire to fight.
Yeah, I guess you're right. I appreciate the calm rundown, all discussion of this topic seems to be filled with hate and anger.
I'm not immune to emotion either, but for me it just saddens me when I see owners of genuinely well trained bullies, like the channel i linked earlier, get penalised and judged in the streets. I keep thinking theres got to be a better way but as you said, changing of law will take forever.
They are definitely far more of a responsibility than property, the fact that alot of people dont understand that is mind boggling. They're living creatures that are dependant on you for their food and mental well being.
I really hope the well trained dogs affected by this can run the course of their lives in peace without abuse on the streets.
Replying in this thread because I like the openness and communication of it.
I completely agree with you Sharp this could be addressed by breeding and training. But ... the end goal is not to have aggressive murder machines on our streets. The breeding of power and aggression into the breed shouldn't have been done in my opinon (or allowed into the UK). Breeding out the aggression, effectively means eliminating the breed anyway and gives us a transition period of completely unknown dogs.
Unfortunately, the primary reason (in my worthless opinion) for owning these dogs is the visage of power and aggression. The public penalty of that is part of owning that "power symbol". The public reaction to the dogs, is the reason people want them in the first place.
I do compare this to "assault weapons" in the US. It's not a phrase that makes much clear sense (like XL Bully). If what you want is a working tool, get a different gun/breed. If what you want is a family companion, get a different breed. If you want the power symbol, get the XL Bully or the "assault weapon". There's no specific reason to own that specific dog, except the power symbol.
I say kill the ugly mutts, they do not belong in a civilized society.
If a pet is capable of killing, then it shouldn't be allowed to be a pet in the first place.
At least you guys have laws concerning dogs. Here in the USA, you can move, with your Rottweiler, into a apartment complex that advertises “no dogs allowed,” because you’re a weak-willed whinny bitch that claims to be suicidal if you don’t have your walking, barking, breathing killing machine with you. Next, gun-owners are going to claim they need their AR-15’s for “emotional support.”
Why else do suburban people need an AR-15? Zombies? Lol
Yeah I dunno, I don’t think we need guns made for war in residential areas, but we do have dogs made for war in them, so 🤷🏾
Next, gun-owners are going to claim they need their AR-15’s for “emotional support.”
The NRA is basically a support group for people who lack emotional maturity.
I mean, Rottweiler is kinda a bad example. They were bred as working dogs, not as fighting dogs or guard dogs. They really just like to pull carts around.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A 23-year-old woman who was mauled to death by a dog in southwest Ireland appears to have been the owner of an XL bully.
The woman, who was named locally as Nicole Morey, was killed on Tuesday evening at a house in Ballyneety, County Limerick, at around 11.40pm.
Irish broadcaster RTE said the dog involved in the attack was understood to be an XL bully.
Ms Morey was treated by paramedics but died at the scene on Tuesday, Garda (Irish police) said.
There are several restricted breeds in Ireland, including German shepherds, rottweilers and various bull terriers, as well as some crosses.
Restricted dogs must be kept collared with their owner's information on a tag, muzzled in public and on a short, strong lead with someone over the age of 16 who is able to control them.
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It's unpopular, but I don't think the breed should be banned.
What should happen is strict licensing laws should be established to ensure that the person in charge of their care follows set instructions, such as:
- Regular obedience check ups to ensure that the dog poses no danger.
- Visits to ensure that the dog is in a suitable household - no kids, people that can take care of it, etc.
- Ensure that the owner is aware of the risks, and can take legal responsibility of owning a XL Bully.
I've known people with XL Bullies, and those dogs appeared to me to be sweet dogs that loved playing, sleeping, and being a part of their family. IMO, all dogs are dangerous in their own way, because ultimately you have no idea of their mental state, and you should treat pets accordingly instead of projecting human attitudes/emotions to them.
Yeh, and most of the time Mike Tyson is sweet, charming and perfectly reasonable company.
But if he's in the wrong frame of mind, he'll bite your head off and shit down the gaping hole.
The XL bully is an inherently powerful and dangerous dog. I have a medium size dog. She's very sweet. She is also very strong, but not so strong that I can't overpower her if ever the need arose.
There aren't many people capable of holding their own against a dog with the physical attributes of an XL.
This is basically what the person that died did. They projected human emotions and actions onto an animal. An XL Bully is not Mike Tyson...
No one is "holding their own" against a XL Bully. Frankly, few people are holding their own against any large dog breeds. All dogs are dangerous, some more so than others.
This is why ownership of specific breeds should only be done in controlled environments. If you're dancing around the kitchen with your XL Bully in order to prove a point, chances are that you're not providing a controlled environment! As someone that has owned rescue dogs, ALL dogs should be in controlled and comforting environments to some extent, even more so with XL Bullies.
Alongside this, the second you ban something in the UK, the breeding black market is going to go into overdrive. Those dogs will be on the streets and in the hands of people that want to abuse them and use them like weapons faster than you can blink.
this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2024
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