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[-] DAT@feddit.de 94 points 1 year ago

"Of the 3000 cars onboard, 25 are electric and one of those has apparently set light to the whole cargo"

BULLSHIT!

Nobody said so.

But "journalists" nowadays are full of shit and all reporting "currently there's no proof that some electric car started the fire" (always with #electriccars) - what everyone reads as "yeah, sure the electric car was it!"

meanwhile electric cars are actually LESS likely to start a fire and still nobody in the know has actually claimed electric cars had ANYTHING to do with it.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 year ago

The article linked in the post says:

A spokesman for the Coast Guard said earlier today that the fire is believed to have started in one of the electric cars. Later in the evening, the Coast Guard said that nothing is yet known about the cause.

So yeah they aren't sure but it's coming from the coast guard not the journalist.

[-] DAT@feddit.de 62 points 1 year ago

Other people actually reported that coast guard not only responded with "we don't know anything yet", but also with "nobody of us would have told you a cause and we don't know who did"

I've not seen any proof apart from wild speculation by owner/journalists yet.

And yes, the owner too pointed at electric cars - but neither people on board nor anybody near the ship was telling about that. So I'd guess that's just repeating headlines too.

My point was: don't claim "maybe it was electric cars"! because people don't understand "maybe"

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[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 25 points 1 year ago

because it's impossible that the other 3000 cars filled with an explosive liquid could have ignited the fire. No, it's definitely impossible, those fuel tanks never leak, and gas vapor never explode

[-] vaultdweler13@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure they don't ship cars with gasoline in em, thats extra weight that doesnt need to be there let alone the fire hazard.

The electric cars on the otherhand most likely have the batteries built into the fucking frame.

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[-] DAT@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

I mean statistics are clear on that one… :D

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

What journalist?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hembrow

If you read the actual article by a journalist they don't say it's a certainty. Maybe the problem is people like you who can't tell a journalist from a random guy.

[-] DAT@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

If you read the actual article by a journalist they don’t say it’s a certainty. Maybe the problem is people like you who can’t tell a journalist from a random guy.

did you even read what I wrote?

I specifically said that journalists are writing "there's no proof that it wasn't" and that other people are reading "it was" into it.

It's exactly that. People are unable to read/understand.

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[-] homoludens@feddit.de 92 points 1 year ago

The ship is expected to keep burning for weeks.

Actually, it might also sink and release up to 2,000 tons of heavy fuel oil (plus molten plastic, metals etc.) to the Wadden Sea which is on the UNESCO World Heritage List as an important biosphere reserve.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Nice! Good to know!

[-] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is also the reason why they aren’t extinguishing the fire as normal. Because flooding the boot with water will guarantee it to sink.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

yeah, tug it back to the customers/producers.

[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 46 points 1 year ago

Just tow it beyond the environment.

[-] Kempeth@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Just pipe it to /dev/null

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[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] DAT@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

No. Out of the environment!

So it's no longer in an environment.

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[-] onichama@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

They corrected the number of cars up to 4000 (:

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[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...alright, maybe this is a stupid question, but how is it we can't get 8 ships out there meant to suck up sea water and blast it onto the fire until its out? How is it that waiting for it to burn out our best option here?

[-] anakronos@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Water stops fire because it spills over the burning mess and starves it of oxygen.

A burning lithium cell releases both oxidizer and fuel, which, because of the temperature, can now burn more of the lithium cell and release more oxidizer and fuel.

Which essentially burns down to LiPos can burn underwater and water won't quench them.

Also, blasting a ship with water means that it will, eventually, sink. Spilling its own heavy fuel, and all the cargo onboard into the sea.

[-] Mandy@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Calm your fucking tits david, you can say this shit about any export product to ever exist

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 1 year ago

Can you? Bet a ship full of bikes wouldn't burn like that and their ecological impact while in use wouldn't be the same.

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