"No no you don't get it, Stalin had to shoot the queers! And Mao! And Deng! And Jiping! Queers are [checks notes] capitalist inventions! Please ignore that queer people have existed since pre-history!"
"Trans women throwing bricks at cops is bourgeois decadence"
Who says this?
This is the sort of thing that could happen in places like Texas and Arkansas, South Carolina and Alabama. maga nation.
It is impossible for this to happen in places like California or New York.
If you are LGBT in a red state or a swing state, and say that both parties are the same, you are an idiot. If you neglect to vote for Democrats in November, you are stabbing yourself - and all the LGBT community - in the back.
this is about beijing, China, not beijing, Alabama
Replace could with is.
When the US oppresses its people and others its just being silly. When China does similar things, they are the scourge of the earth commies authoritarians trying to kill everyone.
Most Americans don't see the hypocrisy. Sad state.
People in America have the freedom to take to the streets, which we have done many times, and the freedom to stage protests and boycots, which we have done many times, and the freedom demand things be better. The results and successes of these actions is always up for debate, but we've made great progress in the last century and have far, far surpassed much of the world in terms of liberties and rights.
It's really hard to see out of the opaque paper-bag we live in here, but the USA is still one of the best deals out there. It's okay to both recognize our successes and privileges while also demanding things be better.
Lol, you're so full of American propaganda.
It's just as easy to fall prey to the negative propaganda, truth is always a lot more complicated and nuanced than your ideological bubble-worlds like to portray. No matter which direction it may be.
idk if america is "one of the best deals out there" but its certainly better than being in a colony or a "strategic interest" country of the US. At best, the US is a second rate country with a dual legal system based on your net worth but its safe from many of the horrors it creates.
What are you on about, they criticize it all the time, they just don't lose social credit over it.
Obviously if Joey would stop all genocide in the world by waving his magic wand, China would suddenly accept LGBT people.
No ones criticizing him for not stopping it, but for actively being involved in it.
No ones criticizing him for not stopping it
I can provide examples from Lemmy itself in this very community if you like.
Bad wording, of course people want him to stop it. Not criticizing him for doing nothing maybe.
No, like people saying "Biden could stop this today with a phone call if he wanted to"
He probably could, netanyahu would have a hard time saying no, for one good reason. We're supplying the weapons and money, we can end his resources for the genocide with or without his say.
He probably could
And yet you also think
No ones criticizing him for not stopping it
If you think he is capable of doing so, why wouldn't the criticism not only exist from others on the left, but also be warranted?
You actually just got this person to call themselves out without them even knowing.
Bravo!
Did you just entirely gloss over my response about bad wording
Bad wording, of course people want him to stop it. Not criticizing him for doing nothing maybe.
If I'm off the mark, what IS this trying to express? In 'good wording', if you will.
The second sentence?
The second sentence?
Sure. What does "Not criticizing him for doing nothing maybe." mean?
Hes not an innocent bystander thats not taking action to stop this genocide. Hes taking action to cause the genocide. If he did nothing instead the genocide wouldnt have the funds and weapons to do what its doing.
Then you agree that there are people are operating under the delusion that Biden can stop the genocide with a snap of his fingers and are criticizing him for that, making your original objection to the guy with a smiley face avatar utterly pointless.
No theres people accusing him of facilitating the genocide.
Like people arent protesting in Japan that their Prime Minister isnt stopping the genocide.
No theres people accusing him of facilitating the genocide.
There's also people accusing him of not stopping the genocide.
Like people arent protesting in Japan that their Prime Minister isnt stopping the genocide.
... do you think the Prime Minister of Japan has the power to stop the genocide?
Just aint gonna get away from my bad wording. People are calling for him to stop the genocide in the sense that him doing nothing will stop the genocide. Like a serial killer can stop the murders. Its different than saying police didnt do enough to stop the murders.
They’d absolutely have the funds and weapons to do what it’s doing.
Joe Biden invented homophobia, pass it on!
Up until Joe Biden, homosexuals were considered royalty throughout history.
"What about..." not the point. Both are shit.
Everyone is shit.
"still an authoritarian shithole huh."
"The LGBT Center is a CIA color revolution"
Have seen actual people try to claim that Queer Rights movements are the modern missionary jobs
Nevermind how modern missionaries are the ones spreading homophobia in places where it wasn't present beforehand.
Cough, cough, CitizenGo...
It still baffles me why that partialry Russian-sponsored christofascist GONGO wasn't booted from the west for spreading homophobia wherever they can.
Appears to be a year old, if anyone else was wondering. Doubt things got any better afterwards...
An advocacy group that also served as a safe space for the LGBTQ community in Beijing became the latest organization to close under a crackdown by Chinese leader Xi Jinping's government.
"We very regretfully announce, due to forces beyond our control, the Beijing LGBT Center will stop operating today,"
Is it because Joe Biden hates gender and sexual minorities?
Must be. Damn you, Chairman Biden!
He can't keep getting away with this!
China is bad about LGBT rights.
There has been some progress, but it's mostly driven (as it has been in other countries) from the bottom up, from grassroots changes in attitude, and not from the central government. While China doesn't have the tradition of conservative Christian beliefs that fuel hatred in the US, there's other beliefs that fuel prejudice and discrimination, especially among older generations.
Many Western sources do try to leverage LGBT issues for geopolitical agendas, as they do with Palestine, for example. But that doesn't mean that what they say is false. I believe cross-referencing between Western sources and pro-LGBT Chinese sources such as Sixth Tone gives the most accurate picture of the state of things on the ground. Personally, I found Naomi Wu's perspective to be an invaluable case study, before she unfortunately ran afoul of censors on a different issue.
Hopefully the situation improves for queer people in China, but I fear that increasing global tensions will only slow down progress on that front.
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