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After Peddling Fake Hamas 'Beheaded Babies' Story, Media Ignores Actual Beheaded Palestinian Baby (www.thecanary.co)

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 94 points 8 months ago

Legacy media is only interested in whitewashing Israeli crimes.

[-] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 52 points 8 months ago

Complicit in*

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 61 points 8 months ago

No shock here. A majority of the world is on a stance of “anything/anyone against the state of Israel is antisemitism”. This is such a false equivalency. Just because something/someone is against what the government of Israel, does not mean it/they are hateful towards the Jewish people. Hell, making such an equivalency is placing actually Jewish people in an unintended hate group.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Majority of the government in the West. I am sure if you start reading news from arabic media you will see a completely different story.

The problem is that international law is applied differently based on the country abusing it. And Israel is trying to shape the news perspective, by its bot army in English speaking of outlets and pushing hard a media campaign trying to discredit everyone who is not acting according to their interest.

Their foreign minister is posting some despicable videos and trying to link Spain and Hamas and claim that Spain is complicit in war crimes is nothing but despicable and shows the morale of all their government.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

If I criticize the government of Venezuela it doesn’t mean I hate all Latinos.

[-] med@sh.itjust.works 31 points 8 months ago

Let me introduce you to an interesting theory.

[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 44 points 8 months ago

Ok, Israel decapitated Palestinian babies and the media are not reporting it.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 16 points 8 months ago

Oh, well, that's alright then.

[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It was on NPR's Up First today, and I'd read it elsewhere too.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

From Up First:

Disturbing description of violence against children

[A witness] says he found one kid with his stomach sliced and his intestines out. Another child had been decapitated. He also said he saw children in body parts.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

That sounds like beheading, then.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Decapitating, because there isn't evidence of intent. Just phenomenally cruel and negligent dropping a bomb anywhere near civilians, especially at that density. Then again, I suppose intent gets fuzzy given how foreseeable something like this was.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Right, and the one kid wasn't disemboweled, they had spontaneous oopsy-doodles-guts-all-noodles, and the other wasn't dismembered, they went red-rover-red-rover-your-limbs-are-all-over.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Disemboweling is disemboweling, dismemberment is dismemberment, neither one has any bearing on intent. Beheading implies the bombs were dropped at least in part to decapitate children, which there is zero evidence of. But again, I don't think the intent distinction necessarily matters that much, given that Israel bombed an area where this was a foreseeable outcome.

[-] livus@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I agree with you. Beheading means decapitation as a form of execution.

At this point it's really splitting hairs. The IDF literally has a program called "Where's Daddy" that allows them to make sure suspects are at home with their families when they bomb them; so I think it's safe to infer that they intend to kill at least some portion of children.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

But don't worry, the IDF's creepy ass program uses AI and then a human spends 20 seconds rubber stamping the kill order on a person and their family members.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

I don't think intent is required. Behead's definition says "cut off the head of (someone), especially as a form of execution." The especially part means it isn't exclusive to that.

Both Be-head and De-capit(ate) = Off-head

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I think this is just one of those "language is complicated" things. I'm seeing multiple definitions out there. I don't know really how much it matters, it starts to approach a semantic argument and getting away from the actual concrete events that have occurred.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As someone who watched the video, I don't think anyone in that situation cares about your distinction.

[-] Kalladblog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

There's a video? My morbid curiosity...

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I've seen enough shock images posted online for a lifetime already. The audio from the witness on NPR's Up First was enough.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No they aren't.

Decapitate is used in the definition of behead.

Behead is used in the definition of decapitate. What kind of weird-ass apologia are you doing here anyway.

[-] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 24 points 8 months ago

You're trying to deflect from a story about murdered Palestinian children with a "Well, ackchyually...."

What a piece of shit

[-] mihies@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

Thank God, I was worried for a brief moment.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure how material the difference is, but you're correct: beheading is deliberate decapitation. I assume they're just being sloppy about definitions.

[-] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure that dropping a 2000lb bomb on a refugee camp is deliberate.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks for informing us. Of course you know this isn't the most important thing about this, but at least I learned something new.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 8 months ago

Sounds about right. The Israel Lobby is fucking strong.

[-] shadearg@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Joy Reid of MSNBC went on record yesterday saying she finally saw the actual beheaded ~~Israeli~~ Palestinian baby photos ~~from October 7th~~. ~~Is there anything substantiated with this?~~

I'll see if I can find the program and block.

Edit: Found it — The ReidOut - Podcast - May 28, 2024 @~28m23s

Edit 2: I got the context wrong. Thanks @Psychodelic@lemmy.world for the correction.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I just listened to this, it's actually a bit before your timestamp, but based on the context of the conversation there having, it seems like they're talking about actually seeing the dead Palestinian kids. When she says "them" it seems to me like she's saying we've now actually seen decapitated kids, whereas as before we only had hearsay

[-] shadearg@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thanks, I'll re-listen and edit. I certainly don't want to cast an unwarranted aspergion.

Edit: You're absolutely correct, the dialog required careful attention. I'll fix my post.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Surely this baby will be the one that tips libs off that this may in fact be a genocide, right? Or do we have to wait for more for them to wake up?

[-] dch82@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

At this point, they’re just stuck in denial

[-] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Where can I find the actual video of the decapitations? It looks like uploads might be taken down? Tons of tweets saying it's everywhere on the internet, but I don't use Twitter and I can't find any uploads.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

man, it's almost like hyper politicized, hyper-narrative stories. Don't actually do much, or something.

Wondering how long it's going to take the media, and people to realize that war is just, bad. Wait until you guys find out what russia has done to their domestic population, as well as ethnic minority groups, and prisoners. Remember the sledge hammer video? Yeah, me too.