There is only one species of dog, canis familiaris. I still wouldn’t call a chihuahua and a great dane the same thing. Species or subspecies, indica is still a different thing.
Huh, last I looked somewhere I'm pretty sure indica was considered a subspecies, not a distinct species. Thanks for the update or correction, either or.
Oh wait no I should've known, it's something we're still pretty much arguing over. That is whether sativa and indica (and ruderalis) are both suspecies, or whether they're all their own species in the same family.
And dog breeds are still (at least in the vast majority) not even different subspecies, just different breed (variants of the same species)
Indica is technically "cannabis sativa indica" and then a strain would technically be written fully as "C. sativa var indica, 'Indian Kush'" or "C. sativa indica, var 'Northern Lights'" or something to that effect. But also sativa would be like "C. sativa sativa, var. 'Durban Poison'"
This is all up for debate, I'm not saying there's consensus on what is or isn't correct. Just inputting a lil content to Lemmy
I mean, I don't partake but isn't it the same as saying cabbage, kale, broccoli, cauliflower and a dozen other things are the same?
It would be the same as saying there is only one species of broccoli, Brassica oleracea.
Me in this thread.
"What's with all the files named after cannabis strains on the gcms and lcms computers?"
"I was making a point."
Right there with you. I got a good giggle out of this.
And there's only one species of wild cabbage, Brassica oleracea. Get out of here with that "broccoli", "kale", "cabbage" or "brussel sprouts" nonsense!
me when weed smokers are talking about magic mushroom “strains”.
These are pretty different though, as cannabis has literally dozens of different cannabinoids and terpenes, but "magic mushrooms" refers to psilocybin shrooms, which all have psilocybin and psilocin in varying amounts.
Cannabis relies on the entourage effect.
Found the guy without experience of drug culture
Name a drug and I've done it.
Name two magic mushrooms without psilocybin.
I can. Can you, even with googling?
"Magic mushrooms" is exactly what refers to psilocybin, even more accurately than "ecstasy" refers to MDMA (a lot of pills have caffeine/mda/speed/rc's).
If you told someone you did shrooms, who the hell would even ask "oh you do mean like psilocybin mushrooms or amanitas or what?"
Brodda wut? I'm a mycologist.
Interesting that a mycologist has 0 posts or comments regarding mushrooms/fungi prior to this post. Not that you have to, but rather that both of my mycologist friends are extremely enthusiastic about talking about it.
Avoiding the question while pretending to be an expert, cool, cool.
Hey when people ask you "do you drink alcohol" do you answer them with "brodda wut? lol, no, only ethanol, why would you think 'alcohol' means 'ethanol' 'alcohol' actually means all alcohols and most of them aren't suitable for human consumption"?
I'm sure you don't.
Now, seeing how you're an expert mycologist, please, do name two "magic mushrooms" which don't contain any psilocin or psilocybin or any of the precursors. (Meaning shrooms in which the "magic" isn't from psilocybin.)
MFW someone pretends there is a universally accepted definition of "species."
Obviously life will refuse to be neatly classified, but that doesn't mean people smarter than us won't still try to do it in order to better understand the world.
... yes? Did you not read your own link? There are several definitions of "species" offered. Go have a look at how this applies to Cannabis and perhaps you will get my point.
is this a ligma joke that i'm too high to understand
this is actually one thing that has pissed me off for 30+ years. to be fair, there is 2-3 types, one for smoking, one for hemp products (non smoking/not getting high) and the wild kind.
Kinda sorta a bit different but you got the gist down close enough. 🙏
Cannabaceae is the plants family which is good shit btw 🤩🧐
There are two ways of thinking I’m aware of. It’s all cannabis sativa. Or. It’s cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and cannabis ruderalis as the three sub species.
Ruderalis is literally ditch weed in that it grows randomlyin the ditch’s around midwestern America, near where “hemp” was produced previously, and produces nothing smokeable or enjoyable I’m aware of.
Hemp is just a governmental term applied to the cannabis plant to denote it has less than .3% THC making it non psychoactive. This is currently heavily abused in the USA as THCa, the naturally occurring acid that grows on cannabis, melts or converts into THC with heat. And the law seemingly defines it into as THC being over .3% not THCa. Weird loophole.
The hops used for brewing beer belong to the same family as marijuana and have a similar alkaloid, the hop harvesters at the end of the day can confirm this.
Hackberry trees (Celtis occidentalis) are also in the same family!
Sounds like a 90s diesel strain that'll have you coughing your balls off.
Yes and others more, but hops are the nearest parent, because of this also cannabis is used to make beer
And yet they are very very different each strain. Doesnt matter if "indica" is fake, they test how it smoked and declare it that type and it is a meaningful difference.
Things marked sativa give me headaches inevitably. Hybrids and indica marked bud doesnt. There is a difference in how breeds effect you, despite incorrect colloquial naming.
In reality testing shows that named strains are not a thing, the testing shows THC and cbd content among things like tannins occasionally, but the only proven relevance to anything is THC.
"Incorrect colloquial naming" is an understatement, genetically weed strains as they are named don't exist at all.
That said, stuff labeled indica on the package may have been formulated to be more relaxing by the manufacturer. Such as by having more CBD and less THC.
Can anyone explain ?
Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species
But each strain is different, right? Like how a chihuahua and a German shepherd are both dogs, but vastly different.
Yes, the different strains absolutely have some differences, and I'm not trying to say it's all bullshit. Weed is awesome, and we should document new stuff as it comes along, but we need to remember that it's all a single plant. I'd say weed is like the apple of drugs
Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence
This is incorrect. Cannabis is the family designation where Sativa, Indica and Ruderalis are the species designations.
This is debated. But this string is an explanation of recent debate. Whether it’s all sativa or there are the three sub species. I prefer the sub species route myself.
As I read it, it’s basically saying there’s only one kind of red wine: red. You’re right, but you’re ignoring all of the subcategories that the typical consumers use to talk about it.
Weed smokers typically consider strains to be either Indica or Sativa, but there’s a whole debate about if those are real differences at all. The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa, hence why this statement is true.
The post is wrong.
Cannabis is the family, while Indica, Sativa and Ruderalis are the species.
The part directly above the species is the genus. Family comes after that, and is Cannabaceae in this case.
I lost 3 years of me life to Cannabis
Yarr, sorry to hear that matey.
That psychological addiction can be rough, fam. It affects some more than others. I've quit more than a couple times. Hope you're doing well and holding strong.
Cannabis ate my dog, and farted on my sister.
Is this ...bioessentialism?
So indica and ruderalis are just sativa variations?
I guess people that keep thinking this are going The wrong way down a one way street
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