Horns: loud, disruptive, rude, wake up bby, hey quiet down people are trying to read
Bell's: polite, delicate, ring ring, refined, happen, excuse me please I am passing through thank you
Bikes can have horns though. Honk Honk
Came in here to say I had a friend who took one of those old ass horns that goes "AAAAAYUUUUUGAAH!" on a bicycle when we were in high school. Was the funniest shit ever. Mostly because he had a whole car battery and some other stuff to make the horn work since he took it out of some old piece of junk on his dad's property (owned a metal fab shop and had tons of scrap and parts all around).
So can trains. Ahooga
Car horns should come with a time limit: you can only use it so much per day. Then people might actually use them correctly. It’s not a rage button. It’s a safety device.
Outside of major US cities, americans mostly don't seem to use them. I mostly use them when I see someone blowing through a red light or a stop sign to alert other drivers there's a dangerous asshole coming through. But I'm usually the only one I've ever seen doing that.
Yup, it's almost like driving inside cities is fundamentally a terrible idea.
You haven't been to India. Youre supposed to honk when you go around a turn or approach an intersection. You're supposed to honk when passing or turning.
If you're driving at night in a residential area and not honking constantly, the cops will look at you as suspicious.
Drivers are supposed to use horns for emergency signalling such as imminent collision. I always thought it was a failing not to include a bell or something for non-emergency signalling.
There is the problem of escalation, where people might simply ignore the bell, but its availability as an alternative to horn would clarify horn use is an expression of aggression, and willful contribution to noise pollution.
That said, I still think autonomous cars can't come too soon, even if we should be looking to vastly reduce car traffic with public transit and urban archipelagos.
@uriel238 @youpie I don't know. Safety record is somewhat mixed - Waymo *appear* to know what they're doing, while a lot of the low end semi-autonomous stuff is downright dangerous, but there were rumours about visibility problems with cyclists etc.
But my main worry is that full autonomy will lead to people driving further. If so, that'll lead to more carbon emissions.
It's certainly a technology in development, and yes the semi-autonomous stuff is dangerous, bu I think that is specifically because the human driver is held responsible when a semi-autonomous car fails. If a Waymo vehicle in Phoenix is involved in a traffic violation, then it's a malfunction of the vehicle. Right now those are handled by the taxi service, but ultimately it would have to be regarded as a product defect, like a sudden unintended acceleration or a Pinto exploding.
(Note the gas tank placement in the Ford 1971 Pinto was not unusual for car designs at the time, and the Pinto model had a lower rate of tank ruptures or explosions due to rear-end collisions, compared to the general population of subcompact cars at the time.)
Yeah. Sidenote, I hate the trend of bike lights nowadays to come with horns.
I just want to make people in front of me aware I exist, I don't want to alert the whole fucking street!
Trams can have horns too.
yeah but it's mostly used to honk at cars. thus cars are the problem once again
Trams just have a sensible setup: bell for alerting others of your location, horn for AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GET OUTTA THE WAY AAAAAAAAAAAAA
I do kind of wish trams had actual bells these days, though, instead of speakers playing bell sounds.
Came for this. Mess with a tram, you get The Horn.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but is this really the type of content that people enjoy here? Sorry, but it looks like a kid made it. “Haha horn bad”.
Stuff like this is why it’s way harder than it should be to get people who aren’t into urbanism to understand the whole premise of communities like these. It drives away reasonable discussion imo. Or is this mostly a meme community?
I see fuck cars as mostly for venting frustration with cars and poor planning, but there aren't really the other communities around it for the more constructive conversations yet on lemmy.
I live right above a 6 lane “road” intersection that goes through my city. It’s constant horns at all hours, it’s the worst
Oh man I love tram as much as the next guy, but have you ever hear the tram horn? At least in U.S. their horn is freaking deadly.
oh where I live even the horns are quite pleasant. probably because everybody in the us drives in a heavily sound dampened pick up lol
Is the person in the corner wearing something like this?
You don't ride your gimp to work?
Nah, it's too restrictive of my breathing.
Car alarms, biggest complaint about horns. I'd love to have a bell for my car, just like a bicycle bell but a bit louder.
I do have a car, but I have been considering buying a hand bell so that I can open the window and stick my hand out of the window to ring the bell if I need to.
Dunno, I love my reusable airhorn when a car cuts me off
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