If you don't use Bing with Edge, Microsoft will tell you your computer needs repairing.
They are not wrong.
To mend your machine:
@kde@floss.social
I remember decades ago when a US court convicted Microsoft to seperate their browser from windows. The court wrote the verdict that Microsoft ilegally tried to prevent competion . Since Microsoft lost it shouldn't be difficult to file the next suit .
@kde@lemmy.kde.social
@enigma @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
During the Clinton era Microsoft was a hair's breadth away from being broken apart for all its anti-competitive monopolistic shenanigans -- including the browser war thing that you mention.
But then Bush Junior got into power (I resist using the words "was elected") and he swept all that away.
@enigma @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
As I recall:
Microsoft Windows used to have good online help, circa 1991-1994 (Windows 3.1).
It was based on the Rich Text Format (RTF).
Then Microsoft added a web browser, and called it Internet Explorer.
Internet Explorer really wasn't very good for exploring the internet, apparently because its development had been rushed and it didn't display some things like other browsers would.
Then Microsoft argued in court that its web browser was an integral part of Windows, which Windows could not work without.
Then the judge removed the web browser from his own Windows-based computer and experienced no problems.
Then Microsoft changed its online help to HTML and made us use its web browser to access it.
Apple had to learn the hard way: Under the DMA (thanks @EUCommission !) they were forced to give users a choice regarding the default search engine and browser on their systems.
What are we going to do about Microsoft misleading users?
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_1689
Is the browser selection on Windows no longer required in EU?
It is still required, as Google had to do the same with Android, offering multiple search engines and presenting them to the user (at least that happened to me with my phone), but after doing it in Windows 8.1, Microsoft probably thought that it was enough compliance to keep "those nagging EU politicians" away.
I just found out that the agreement between Microsoft and the EU commission was only valid between 2009 and 2014. So MS is no longer obliged to make the change of the default browser easy.
What a shame, as now it would be more needed than ever :c
But thank you for correcting me.
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Well, I ditched Windows many, many, many years ago, but Plasma still doesn't make any sense to me, so I use XFCE. But thank you for Plasma!
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I've been using Plasma 6 as my daily driver for three weeks now, and it's really good! I'm grateful for all the time that developers, testers, and doc writers have spent on this project. I decided to ditch Windows after getting yet another nudge to "please create a microsoft account".
This is actually pretty frustrating
I don't even use Edge and I'm upset
What is wrong with all those kde links in the comments? Are y'all bots?! Hella annoying.
They probably either use a different client, or a different federated service, that lets them mark multiple participants in each post of the thread.
I think they may be using mastodon and that's how you post in a lemmy community via mastodon, using the @ tags.
Federation is taking some getting used to I guess.
Mastodon users need to mention the user and the community name in order to make or reply to Lemmy comments.
Dark pattern and antitrust legislation doesn't mean anything if it's not enforced.
It doesn't say anything about repairing, this is such a low class clickbait.
All it says is that the default settings are changed, and they recommend resetting to their service. Because of course a company is going to recommend their own services. Would be a bad company if they didn't.
This is the actual picture they used in the article:
It doesn’t say anything about repairing, this is such a low class clickbait.
It is literally under the "Repair tips" tab.
Useful red circle
If you look at the screenshot, you can see this is the "Repair tips" tab/button. I don't know what it looks like, but it does say something about repairing.
The next step will be for Windows to tell you that you are broken if you chose another browser.
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
I love KDE so much. If I didn't rely on certain creative software for work, I'd ditch macOS in an instant.
And I think that's one of the reasons people just aren't able to switch over from Windows.
But hey, every other computer in the house that isn't a Mac runs Fedora KDE. 😃
@kde@floss.social on my latest laptop I didn't even activate Windows. I just plugged in a USB stick with a KDE distro.
Who needs Windows?
So repair it.
With Linux!
If you aren't using Bing on Edge, then I'm sorry to say you are streets behind my friend.
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Guess what, Firefox does the same thing (a refresh will reset your privacy settings and your default browser, all of which affect Mozilla’s revenue streams) but they’re a tad sneakier/cleverer(?) about it.
(Firefox is not private by default so getting you to reset your settings is how they try to influence you to return to their preferred configuration.)
@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Wait, but isn't the whole point of a refresh to reset everything?
I agree though, out of the box Firefox has become pretty bloated.
@Aaron @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Yes, to non-private defaults. Let’s put it this way: if Firefox’s defaults respected your privacy, Mozilla would go bankrupt tomorrow.
@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
Here, you dropped this...
Because, guess what? Plasma does not force you to use Firefox either.
@Bro666 @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Which would make perfect sense if I had said “Plasma forces you to use Firefox.” Would you like any other straw men to rile against?
@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I wouldn't call that one deceptive design tbh, it says what it is doing on the box, resetting the browser to its default state. That includes search engines and privacy settings. Resetting settings to defaults is a completely normal feature that many apps have, and can be useful for fixing issues.
@dajix @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social It’s deceptive. They know exactly what they’re doing. That’s why they also ask if you haven’t used your browser for a while.
@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I still dont consider this deceptive design. A prompt to reset is perfectly normal in programming, and it would be weird if they did not reset privacy settings with that. Resetting settings is resetting ALL settings. In fact, since resetting is often used for fixing issues you are having in your browser, resetting security settings is a good thing, since some of them can break sites.
Shh! You're messing up their bizarre soapbox interjection! They want everyone to switch back to chrome because they'd rather Google have access to your data instead
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Do not fear the learning curve, for it is shallower now than a year ago.
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I'd like to use Plasma, but the last time I tried it, it didn't run very well on my PC.
Compared to Windows? Because then it's probably not plasma but the underlying distribution.
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