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Trump floats idea of three-term presidency at NRA convention (www.theguardian.com)
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Donald Trump flirted with the idea of being president for three terms – a clear violation of the US constitution – during a bombastic speech for the National Rifle Association in which he vowed to reverse gun safety measures green-lighted during the Biden administration.

“You know, FDR 16 years – almost 16 years – he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?” The ex-president and GOP presidential frontrunner said to the organization’s annual convention in Dallas, prompting some in the crowd to yell “three!” Politico reported.

Trump has floated a third term in past comments, even mentioning a prolonged presidency while campaigning in 2020. He has also tried distancing himself from this idea, telling Time magazine in April: “I wouldn’t be in favor of it at all. I intend to serve four years and do a great job.”

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[-] FakeGreekGirl 260 points 7 months ago

And that's a big part of why, despite everything Biden is doing, I am 100% voting for him. Because if Biden wins, there will be a 2028 election where we can hopefully find someone better, and I'm not convinced that there will be under Trump.

Four years of Trump came really close to turning this country into a kakistocratic dictatorship. I really don't want to give him another chance.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 16 points 7 months ago

there will be a 2028 election where we can hopefully find someone better

I've literally had people utter this to me before every single presidential election that I've voted in and it's never come true. Neither party has any incentive to improve things when they're guaranteed to get votes because "the other guys are boogeymen!"

[-] FakeGreekGirl 54 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So when Trump pulls another January 6, but succeeds this time and declares himself president for life, do you think that will make the situation better or worse?

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 7 months ago

Trump literally already tried to overturn an election, for fuck's sake.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Donald did do an insurrection on his way out in 2021. Oh, did you not vote in 2016? Maybe you are technically correct.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 22 points 7 months ago

There are generally better things happening under democratic rule than republican rule. I get that it can feel small to those of us who want more radical change but there is a difference.

But I agree. Radical change is probably not happening from within the current system. Direct action and external pressure will be needed. But there is still a difference in how tolerant the two parties (and also between intra-party factions) will be of such a movement.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 21 points 7 months ago

Trump can't be both "different from everyone else" and "everyone's worries about the guy are unfounded, he's just another politician."

While I know you didn't say he's the same, per se, you might as well by comparing alarms that Obama or Romney are going to be forever presidents to the guy literally "joking" about being a forever president that's taken possibly criminal steps to subvert the results of an election already.

It's not just the fringe paranoid folks saying "this could be the end of democracy as we know it if Trump wins."

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[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why on earth would you think democrats would allow for someone better in 2028? Biden's win will prove that they can continue propping up fascist extremists and you'll vote for fascist lite.

You're not describing a strategy, you're describing a slow death.

[-] FakeGreekGirl 30 points 7 months ago

Even so, still better than a perpetual Trump dictatorship.

If Trump wins, he will, without a doubt, try again to end American democracy. He did before. And whatever you think of our current situation, at least we have a fucking voice right now.

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[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 122 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The same guy who unilaterally banned bump stocks with an executive order being hosted by the NRA shows how much the NRA actually cares about the second amendment.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

Are you claiming the "take the guns first" guy isn't a strong 2A supporter? Say it isn't so!

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 23 points 7 months ago

Bump stocks and all other focuses on rate of fire are more or less a sacrificial lamb. It provides a strong distinction between "Heh, stupid fucking loser thinking 'assault rifles' are actually a thing" and "semi-automatic versions of rifles specifically designed for and used by military forces"

When the reality is that basically every military strong discourages the use of full auto by anyone whose job is not to carry a machine gun of some form. But, because that AR-15 you bought at Walmart doesn't have full auto, it isn't a military weapon.

And because it is our god given right to carry an m249 everywhere we go, it is a horrible insult to the gun nuts of the world to lose their full auto capabilities so we should all feel warm and fuzzy and stop trying to stop kids from getting shot.

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's because full auto rifles*, are typically seen as wasting limited ammunition. A modern military unit isn't likely to encounter a bunched together group of 30-50 soft targets where a full auto rifle would be most effective...unlike a mass shooter indiscriminately targeting a crowded concert.

*Rifles, not machine guns. I'm well aware of the utility of squad machine gunners, talking guns, etc.

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[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 95 points 7 months ago

“If the Biden regime gets four more years, they are coming for your guns,” Trump railed.

Really pulling out the "greatest hits" with this piece here. He's got nothing else.

[-] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 61 points 7 months ago

‘Member when Trump said he’d take guns without due process? Like he literally said that.

https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI?si=5WjokT9mD_4VQ46T

[-] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago

"regime"

He really used that word? Wow...

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[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago

I support a life-term prisondency for him.

[-] UmeU@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

Ok hear me out…

Trump wants to be a dictator, sure. He was a terrible president and it would be a disaster if he was reelected.

Now that you know my position, listen to what he said at the NRA convention. He wasn’t saying ‘hey maybe I’ll serve 3 terms’… what he was saying was ‘if I get elected in 2024 then would that be two terms or three terms? Because we all know I was elected to a second term back in 2020 and so even though Biden is acting president, I am in my second term now, so a win in 2024 is a third term.’

The man is an idiot and rambled incoherently throughout the NRA speech. He reiterated his usual batch of racist xenophobic statements and bragged about his uncle at MIT… he is a one trick pony and there is plenty to poke fun at.

Would he tout the idea of a third term for himself? Sure! Is that what he did in this case, not precisely.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago

If he gets even one we are doomed

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[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

So let's see here, Trump is 77 years old, but will be 78 at the time of election. Let's just add eight years and we get 86... yep he's angling for president for life.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Yep, and his brain will be mush, so who knows who'd really be running the show.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Will be? It already is.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

He's angling for hereditary dictatorship.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

Republicans hate the constitution, so… this checks out.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

noted fascist is a fascist, more at 5

Guys I'm starting to think that this Trump fellow might not like democracy

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

Lock him the fuck up already

[-] aquinteros@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

that's how dictators dictate

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

To be honest I think Clinton or Obama would have been president for life if two term limits weren't imposed.

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[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Not the first time he's done this.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4673353-trump-suggests-he-could-be-a-three-term-president-if-he-wins-election/

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Man, all those guns, and no one shot him in the face multiple times. What a shame. Damn shame.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 30 points 7 months ago

That would never happen: These brave 2A champions have completely banned firearms from these conventions for security reasons.

[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

It's my biggest gripe against the left. Imagine betting your life on a game of football where one side is playing no contact tag rules and the other is playing full lethality death ball rules. We'll sit here and talk about how they're not playing fair, but pride parades won't march with guns. We'll cry about how horrid it is that they force their religion into our schools but we won't use the same system to fight it.

The left will die for their beliefs, but the right will kill for them. Only one of those methods leaves survivors.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

As the saying goes, "go far enough left and you get your guns back." It's not leftists clutching pearls over "gun violence;" it's privileged centrist liberals (a.k.a. MLK's "white moderates") doing that.

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[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago

He really, really wants to stay out of prison.

[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Someone asked if Republicans will ever run a candidate other than Trump while he is alive. He has such a strong grip on the party that even if he keeps losing he may remain the R candidate, in 2028 and beyond.

[-] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 13 points 7 months ago

At this point it’s The Heritage Foundation who would win and run the presidency, Trump is just a bobble head conman running scams on his supporters

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They love suckin his chode

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[-] JohnyRocket@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago

Of course this was going to happen, it was only a matter of time.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

What it sounds like to me, and apparently only me, is that he is saying here he is currently running for his third term since he "won" in 2020. Of course he has made comments before about how he likes how Putin and Xi keep getting to stay in power and wished he could do that, but it would help his cause if he could win the popular vote just once over his lame opponents.

Imagine if Democrats actually nominated someone worth voting for rather than just us voting against Trump. But I guess that's too much to ask for.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

He has also said his first term shouldn't count because he was impeached. Never give him the benefit of the doubt.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 12 points 7 months ago

I mean the allusion to FDR seems pretty clearly connected to the idea of further future terms. Trump always phrases these things in a way so he has plausible deniability. But the subtext is obvious if you pay attention.

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