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Platforms wonder why piracy is spiking (7news.com.au)

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It's not even surprising anymore platforms do this & act all Pikachu face why piracy is spiking

Netflix & all these streaming platforms have completely lost touch & they will lose more customers in the long run

To quote Gabe Newell on Piracy

"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

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[-] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 140 points 5 months ago

I accidentally pirate crap I have legitimate access to because I can't be bothered to figure out which damn platform its on. I have access to quite a few through work due to my industry at no out of pocket costs.

The times I try to actually search for something, it'll be listed on multiple platforms but 0 to 1 of those platforms will actually have what I'm looking for included with the subscription forcing me to manually check each one.

It is easier to just pirate.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 55 points 5 months ago

when you need the modern equivalent of TV Guide just to find a show …

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Yeah that’s called the *arr suite

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[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

Your case would apply for the legitimate use of streamio, where you can log into all the services and you can watch whatever through that service's credentials.

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Rotten Tomatoes will usually say where it's streaming. Or a quick Google search of "(TV show) where streaming" will get you there. At least it used to, Google is shit these days so who knows.

[-] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Justwatch.com is my go to

Cerement linked it in their comment

[-] dingus182@endlesstalk.org 4 points 5 months ago

JustWatch also has direct links to IMBD in their descriptions.

[-] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Yes. I use it as my first step for sailing. See if it’s on a service I have then grab the imdb identifier if it’s not. Very handy if you sail old school manually like I do.

[-] ECB@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago

Depends on the country though as well. Its probably pretty easy to figure out for big ones like the USA, but in smaller countries its often a mess...

[-] Banzai51@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

That info can go stale quickly as content licensing changes. I've ran into that plenty.

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 88 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Cable TV exists

Customers hate it and people start pirating

Netflix comes around, other streaming services

People happy, piracy goes down

Streaming services go back to the way cable was, increased prices, reduced content, started bundling shit you don't want.

Customers start pirating again

Surprised Pikachu face

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 51 points 5 months ago

Maybe if we put ads in and take away the ability to download content foe offline use?

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[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Netflix comes around, other streaming services

The (admittedly inevitable) appearance of other streaming services was shit already since with it came exclusive content.

[-] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 73 points 5 months ago

I despise ads. I can't even bring myself to watch Netflix or Amazon Prime. If there is advertising, it ain't worth it, no matter how cheap.

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 28 points 5 months ago

There's not enough of us, but I still don't care. I refuse to pay to watch ads. Also, I had Prime and they wouldn't let me watch high def with firefox on Linux, so even though I paid for it, I had to hit the high seas to watch content in high def.

[-] businessfish 13 points 5 months ago

There’s not enough of us, but I still don’t care. I refuse to pay to watch ads.

i had this conversation with my dad recently about how shitty everything is now with ads etc, and his response boiled down to "i don't care enough". sucks to see people being complacent in being subject to greedy corporate whims. as much as i want people with that mindset to care, i have no idea how to effectively argue against "i don't care".

[-] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Idk what age your dad is, but I'm 53 (gen-x) and my generation are notorious for being difficult to market to. Maybe he just blanks it out, like an automatic mute button. I used to do that but ads are far too mentally disruptive for me these days. I've had enough.

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[-] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 65 points 5 months ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dear Netflix, I've been a loyal customer since 2013. I've been perfectly happy with our arrangement. YOU are the one terminating our contract, not me. It seems you'd prefer to get rid of a happy, paying customer in the hopes you can somehow persuade them to embrace a higher cost or shittier experience (ads). That's a bold move Cotton. Buh-bye dons pirate hat

YARR MATEYS

[-] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

AOL still has 1.5 million active monthly subscribers. People forget to cancel subscriptions all the time.

Subscriptions are a great way to sell a service to someone who isn't using it, and when they want to cancel it getting the spent money on something never used is generally impossible.

IMO for something like a streaming service... if you don't stream a minute of video in a month you shouldn't have to pay anything.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 months ago

thing is, most of us should of known, they pulled this same crap back when they tried forcing everyone to drop the physical discs and switch to streaming only …

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 64 points 5 months ago

very much a convenience factor – Apple broke the MP3 sharing scene with the simplicity (at the time) of iTunes – video streaming started out simple but now it’s turned into cable TV, trying to find out which service is streaming a particular show, if it’s region-locked, or gated behind a premium upgrade, or just been dropped completely, or two services are still arguing over who gets the rights, or find out all the seasons are on one service except one season is on another service …

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 40 points 5 months ago

Infamous implies somebody is famous in a negative way. If anything, Gabe is a shining example that should be upheld.

[-] Ixoid@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

"Infamous" - that means more than famous!

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think in this example it could go either way, depending on who is viewing it.

Regular people would say he's famous.

People running streaming platforms and other big corpos (especially Tim Sweeny) might say he's infamous.

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[-] DrummXYBA@sh.itjust.works 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Because i aint spending 3 figures a month on 5+ different sports streaming services to follow one team. Simple.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 38 points 5 months ago

They have billions of dollars i have hundreds. I'm sure they'll survive me not giving them any of my hard earned money

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

Yeah but for a publicly traded company, quarterly growth is the name of the game. If the numbers go down long enough, it's game over for them.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 months ago

Won't somebody please think about the shareholders?

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

I'll dance for them as I prance around the fire of their failed BSD l business model. Stupid, selfish cunts...

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 13 points 5 months ago

Fuck em

[-] SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

...with a baseball bat covered in nails. Rusty nails.

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[-] r1ch134dl3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

it's game over for them

Hopefully.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

then what's the point of pirating if you want the company to fail?

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[-] noisypine@infosec.pub 9 points 5 months ago

I'm crying for them.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They don't even have to go down. Staying stable or even going up at a consistent rate are both considered failure states, or at least unfavorable. If the rate of growth is not itself growing then they start worrying.

It's insane.

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 months ago

they first succeeded in curbing piracy before the moved to ruining the value of their offerings.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago

The funny bit to me is how obvious they are about restructuring their business model. Netflix clearly wants a greater proportion of their revenue to come from advertisers, so they're charging exorbitant prices for the 4K and, in particular, standard plan while keeping the "ad-supported" plan fairly low. They were probably seeing waves of short-term subscribers in response to big releases and are trying to bait those people into staying subscribed permanently while also milking then through advertisements. I wouldn't be surprised if the standard plan is removed at some point because it's such bad value now.

[-] enleeten@discuss.online 27 points 5 months ago

Reed Hastings: "But our stock price shows customers love enshittification?"

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 5 months ago

Gee, we've tried taking content away, raising prices, injecting adverts and forcing them to use our crappy clients.

Why are people turning to piracy?

Advertising and lobbying are the only thing these people know how to do.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 4 points 5 months ago

Not to mention removing features, like Netflix removing the ability to download media.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

If only there was a way for media to exist as a file.

Alas, it's just not possible.

[-] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 24 points 5 months ago

The only thing that keeps me with subscriptions is the cartoons my daughter watches, because they are hard to find dubbed in my language (Portuguese). It's still more convenient to subscribe than try to find the dubbed cartoons online. For everything I watch I use my arr stack.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Depending on her age of course... But you can find SRT (subtitle) files for literally almost everything, often in dozens of languages. They're super tiny too since it's basically just a txt file

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[-] Thrife@feddit.de 23 points 5 months ago

Happens here in Germany too. We were not informed via mail but via a message when we started the app on the TV (not even on a phone). Since there are two other people on that account I decided to not just cancel but talk with both of them. We moved one tier down.. Yet.

[-] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Now I remember why I don't pay attention to 7 news. This article is an ad in itself.

[-] Nom@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Customers will notice the change on their next bill. Netflix has quietly put up its prices across each subscription tier in Australia.

~~Why is this even legal, oh who am I kidding lobbying most likely.~~ They began notifying people on May 13. Thanks for the correction @blindsight@beehaw.org.