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[-] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 216 points 1 year ago

The hottest 21 days so far!

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

Seriously! I give it pretty good odds this runs for a full month, then we'll probably get some relief with days that are only near record-breaking 🥵

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

And then the inevitable day or week or so where it's unseasonably cold before we barrel into another couple months of record breaking heat. But during those weeks I will be told innumerable times "so much for global warming! This idiots don't know anything!"

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[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Not true. Fake news. Everyone knows that for the first few hundred million years after Earth first formed the average surface temperature was 80C (176F).

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

"ever recorded" - there was nobody around to record the formation of the earth.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Um in case you've been under a rock George Santos obviously kept perfect records for the last 4.5 billion years.

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, the planet was destroyed in the name of insatiable capitalist greed.

But for one shining moment in time, we created a lot of value for shareholders!

(and just to be crystal clear, not you)

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/the-wealthiest-10percent-of-americans-own-a-record-89percent-of-all-us-stocks.html

[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

The planet will be fine. It's us that should be worried.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

For the love of christ, stop saying that. Every single time someone makes this comment. We. Get. It.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do we? Because the absolutely astonishing sense of self-importance humans have would indicate otherwise.

Other beings live here, and while humans fuck humans over in the name of greed and power, we bulldoze entire ecosystems without any consideration for the other creatures that lived here whatsoever.

No, you're wrong. Most humans live, act, and speak as if the entire world, hell the entire universe, should be bent to better serve our naive, entitled species exclusively.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

It's a thought-terminating cliche that serves to downplay the problem because "hurr durr the animals will be okay" (even though they actually won't since we're in the middle of the Anthropocene mass extinction, but never mind that) and to act as a derailment tactic.

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[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I'll stop saying it the minute people stop saying we're destroying the planet.

[-] foo@programming.dev 45 points 1 year ago

Only an idiot thinks that when we say *we are destroying the planet " they literally means the planet will explode or something. It's clear that we mean the only part of the planet that is meaningful for us, the biosphere.

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[-] Cybermass@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago

In torn between following my dreams and dedicating my life to attempting to help the climate crisis by going to school and inventing some tech to help

and giving up entirely, coasting through life with my stable government job, and drinking to forget until the day I hang myself...

This world is fucked, should I even try? Or should I just hope in reincarnation?

[-] Doug@midwest.social 57 points 1 year ago

Well if no one does anything it won't be better should reincarnation come around.

I think Dr. Seuss has some pertinent wisdom here.

Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot nothing is going to get better. It's not.

[-] LadyAutumn 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its not really a matter of if I care. I cannot sway billionaires, the ones who put us into this situation. I cannot make them stop destroying the planet. They do not care what I think, and they are solely motivated by profits. Nothing else. They have no morality, no sensibilities, no sympathy, and they have absolutely no desire to do literally anything about the unfolding climate crisis. They don't care. They'd double emissions in a heartbeat if they'd make a few cents off of it. God knows they've done it before, and they've done much worse for much less money.

Until the money billionaires have stolen from us is rightfully given back to us, we have no means of intervening directly ourselves. The only other option is insurrectionary revolution. Those in the ruling class have shown us consistently over the last 150 years that they have callous disregard for the environment and for the future of humanity. They have shown time and again they will ignore all warnings, they will dismiss all concerns, they are apathetic to human life, and are solely focused on the accumulation of stolen wealth. There's no middle ground here. If we want to do something meaningful to mitigate this crisis, the billionaires and the ruling class have to go.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 35 points 1 year ago

The problem isn't tech to help the environment, as far as I can tell. It's more getting the people in charge to actually do something about it.

I think the French once invented a device for that, I forget what it was called.

[-] LaSaucisseMasquee@jlai.lu 18 points 1 year ago
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[-] lohrun@fediverse.boo 33 points 1 year ago

Seeing how we’ve known about it for decades and this is the amount of progress we’ve made towards slowing/fixing it… idk maybe I’m just being cynical, then again Covid really showed us just how much the general public doesn’t care about their well-being and other’s wellbeing

[-] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago

I had a slight glimmer of hope at the start of covid-19, when people were dazed and confused and isolating and waiting for a vaccine. At the very start, I actually thought humanity is proving we're not that bad.

The rest is history now.

[-] zalack@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

IMO, it's always better to try. Worst case scenario is that nothing changes, so no worse than if you didn't. The only sane choice in that kind of situation is to pick the one with a chance for improvement.

In my experience, giving a shit about what you're doing has a bunch of positing knock-on affects as well. You just end up feeling better about yourself. In your specific scenario it sounds like trying would also afford you the opportunity to live a happier life, and that's worth chasing. The world is fucked, but scientists keep saying they if we act soon it's not so fucked they we're past the inflection point to un-fuck it.

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[-] derf82@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago

Moving past tipping points. With permafrost melting, sea ice melting and not reforming, and fires in the boreal forest, the feedback loop is developing. We are going to blow past 2 degrees C way faster than anyone predicted.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Honestly, anyone paying attention saw this coming since 2010.

We had twenty years to avoid this: by massively switching to nuclear power in the 90s and 00s.

We missed that exit ramp. By 2010 it was clear that 2 degrees was unavoidable.

The choice now is, do we limit it to 2-3 degrees warming, or do we go straight to 4-5 degrees?

It will take at least two decades to transform our industrial world economy.

[-] tissek@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 year ago

4-5 degrees? You are optimistic. I bet I get to see 3 degrees in my lifetime as we will blast by each and every exit ramps. Not only that we'll also be drifting on the highway, because it looks cool.

[-] Kinglink@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Nuclear power scares me"

Welcome to the result. It's sad, because nuclear power was the way, but instead we propegandized against it and continued to use it as a boogie man.

Ignoring the fact that coal and natural gas still hurt and kill people daily, ignoring there's over 400 nuclear power reactors that are still active, 93 in America... But no.. "Chernobyl" and the discussion ends.

Also Chernobyl was a 50 year old design, and happened 40 years ago, involved multiple human errors ... nah can't consider things have changed since then.

Now we have people using another nuclear plant in Ukraine as an example, and again the fear rises. They're trying to weaponize the plant, but somehow it's "Nuclear power" and not the fact some fuckheads are planning to destroy it in a destructive fashion that's the problem.

Somehow dams that would be devistating to destroy are given a pass, but hey Nuclear power, so scary.

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[-] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the British Petroleum summer heat wave. Next up is the Exxon Mobile Hurricane season.

Fun fact about the Exxon Mobile Hurricane Season, oil and gas platforms can get insurance against a storm in the Exxon Mobile Hurricane Season, but homeowners in Louisiana can't get any homeowners insurance due to the expected severity of the named storms in the Exxon Mobile Hurricane Season.

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[-] jinarched@lemm.ee 65 points 1 year ago

Where I'm from, we were massively talking about it in the 80s when I was a kid. It promply stopped by the end of the 90s. Then all of sudden, we don't hear much about it.

It's so fucked up to be told all your life that your are insane to believe in climate change, and then about 40 years later, most people talk about it as if it was a given.

We should not be anxious about climate change, we should be furious.

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

It was being talked about in newspapers a century ago. The fossil fuels companies have known for a very long time, and have been suppressing it for a very long time, hiring many of the same people involved in suppressing evidence that tobacco causes cancer. We should be torches and pitchforks in the street livid.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I remember the topic from school in the 90s, where it said "if we don't start to do anything about it soon, it will have serious catastrophic consequences in about 30 years". And now here we are.

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[-] aloeha@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Time to get out the guillotines. Socialism or extinction.

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[-] The_Vampire@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Don't worry guys, I'm sure this is just natural weather fluctuation and has nothing to do with us messing with the climate for the past however many decades. We couldn't possibly be suffering the consequences of our own actions (or at least the actions of a few with too much power). /s

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[-] nadwwwimni 42 points 1 year ago
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[-] pfannkuchen@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

In Germany it’s colder and wetter than usual while in southern Europe they’re boiling. Crazy weather.

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[-] MaxPower@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah well this is frightening. In 25-30 years I will retire and now I need to raise the chances that I will live in a home with air conditioning in a country that -- currently -- hardly has buildings with air conditioning because it was not a necessity up until now. This will be an uphill battle. I don't want to die prematurely in a summer heat wave..

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[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Just waiting for that sea level rise to kick in. There's plenty of anchorages that are still too shallow for my boat.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I'm glad I'm old enough that I remember much more seasonally appropriate weather, if nothing else. It was really snowy in December when I was a kid in the 1980s and I think I only saw one green Christmas that whole time, while green Christmas is just normal now. We also didn't have air conditioning until I was in my teens, because Canada had cooler summers, and for the odd hot night you'd just sleep in the basement. Eventually we moved to a house that had central air, but I don't remember needing it the way we have the last 20 years.

I don't have air conditioning now, but it hasn't been a bad summer in Ontario so far heat wise, somehow we're missing the big heat waves everyone else is getting. I'm lucky I get a lot of tree shade.

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[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I expect it to be worse next year, and even worse the year after that.

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