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Firefox’s Enhanced Tracking Protection (Strict Mode) is known to cause issues on x.com

There were no "issues"; everything was working completely fine. This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.

I saw a recommendation to use Firefox's container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it's disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.

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[-] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 410 points 6 months ago

Stop using twitter for f*cks sake

[-] TootGuitar@sh.itjust.works 174 points 6 months ago

This is the internet; you can say “fuck” here.

[-] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 49 points 6 months ago

Sir this is a Wendys, go rant somewhere else for fucks sake

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

Excuse me, I'm going to have to ask you not to curse here.

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[-] bolexforsoup 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don’t do that it’s annoying. If someone doesn’t want to write out curse words, more power to them. It doesn’t inconvenience you in the slightest. It’s just a patronizing comment that has been made into a meme.

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Can any late teen-early 20s armchair philosophers once-over this for me?

I have a theory. Never before on the internet (going on 30 years of it) have I seen so many curses used but not fully spelled out ('f*ck' for example).

I believe the change has to do with social media and specifically short-form video apps (Tiktok, IG Reels, Youtube Shorts) - not all of which I am familiar with, but I know at least YT and I believe TT does as well. When curse words or words like rape and murder are used in text (or 'subtitle' text on screen) the video reach can be penalized in some way. I assume it's similar in comments.

So you have a ton of the younger generation consuming hours each day of censored curse words, and in their mind it becomes just what you're supposed to do, socially. They end up doing it with each other over text, and consequently in comments. I have a younger co-worker who will gladly say "F*ck that dude hes a b*tch" in group chat, and when I asked him why he doesn't just say the words he's using, he said "I just don't like to curse." Which makes no sense to me, as it's the same word and intent.

I know some Lemmy instances will remove words, but generally only 'bitch' and derogatory slur words.

So I hypothesise it's simply unexamined social conditioning, where they see their peers doing it so they do it too, never questioning why.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

It really baffles me how often I still see it talked about. Especially on Lemmy. I never liked it myself but now the musk owns it, I would've assumed there wouldn't be much controversy here: it's dead and gone, move on, people.

[-] bolexforsoup 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Problem is it isn’t gone and it’s still helping foment huge political/social issues in the US. It impacts us whether we want it to or not.

Doesn’t mean I use it. I don’t. But it negatively impacts my life all the same.

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Ah yes politics, the thing that can be discussed in 140 characters or less. Twitter is definitely the prime place for this discourse.

I get what you’re saying, I really do, I just think its super fucked up that our politicians have collectively decided this is THE place to engage people when there is no political topic that could possibly be discussed properly this way. I’m pretty sure I already exceeded the limit just saying this.

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[-] banazir@lemmy.ml 36 points 6 months ago
[-] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

I made accounts on Mastodon and Blue Sky but most people still use Twitter, so if there's info you're looking for, or if you want to share things, you're forced to use what most people are using.

[-] TootGuitar@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I deleted my 2007-era Twitter account in 2022 and not once have I felt like I was missing out on any “info” or felt like I wasn’t able to share things.

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[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 287 points 6 months ago

Which means that Firefox works properly on that aspect. Good.

[-] bolexforsoup 67 points 6 months ago

Is protecting you from malware

[-] cupcakezealot 24 points 6 months ago

didn't work; elon musk still breathes.

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[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 127 points 6 months ago

The real question is why people are still using that dumpster fire of a website.

[-] airportline@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 months ago

To answer your question, it's inertia. People need to be forced of Twitter if before they join Mastodon/Bluesky/Threads

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[-] cupcakezealot 105 points 6 months ago

i have no idea why people who are concerned about privacy would use anything associated with elon musk.

[-] HEXN3T 47 points 6 months ago

The Gods forbid I try to literally read something

The real question is why people keep using Twitter despite how impossible it is to even visit the website

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[-] nintendiator@feddit.cl 15 points 6 months ago

Until the creators of the content you need switch, it's one of if not the hub where the content is.

This would be easy to "solve" from the reader end if Nitter was still operational, but I haven't heard from the project or from any alternative in ages.

[-] settoloki@lemmy.one 14 points 6 months ago

If you stop going to twitter to see the content, the creators would be forced to move. How important can the content be?

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[-] cyrus@sopuli.xyz 87 points 6 months ago

This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.

No this is a hilarious fuckup where they forgot to move twitter.com, pbs.twimg.com and more off of the Twitter domains, so Firefox started blocking it because to Firefox it looks like Social Media trackers.

Mozilla already pushed a fix.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

Why would anybody test that first in QA anyway?

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 47 points 6 months ago

Every software project, without exception, has a testing environment.

Some even have a separate production environment too.

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[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 81 points 6 months ago
[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think it is called the network effect. People are still using Twitter because the messages they want to see are being posted there, and those messages are being posted there because that's where the audience is. So, basically, people are locked in.

This also means that any loss in user count has a double effect, as not only users are lost, but the utility of the service for the remaining users decreases. So, what I'm saying is, if Elon continues this way, at some point there will be a large exodus of users from Twitter, as each loss of users reduces the utility of Twitter further, triggering a chain reaction.

Of course, we can't know when that happens, and since we're both on Lemmy, we've already self-selected as people with little tolerance for enshittification.

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[-] geography082@lemm.ee 78 points 6 months ago

The question is, why there still people using this shit ?

[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago

Depending on the research subject, people built networks on Twitter. It's hard to move on another platform as you will loose your network.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People are still using that shit because other people they want to interact with are still using that shit. Network effects are hard to break.

I occasionally use it to complain at corporations, mostly when their websites show me captchas but occasionally for other customer service issues.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago

Same reasons why people still use Facebook - too many folks who think it's still a good thing.

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[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 74 points 6 months ago

The thing people miss when they boast "wElL I DoNT uSe iT sO nOt mY pRoBlEm" is that an increasingly large proportion of our society does use these shit platforms, and for longer periods too. We have to live in this world with all the brainrotted zombies so it is actually our problem too.

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[-] airportline@lemmy.ml 51 points 6 months ago

God I can't wait for that website to die already

[-] tahoe@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

I feel like people will still be saying this in ten years (sadly)

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[-] 10_0@lemmy.ml 50 points 6 months ago

Why even use twitter in the first place?

[-] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 48 points 6 months ago

How might we help and encourage people to leave Twitter?

[-] asif@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago

Highkey though I kind of don't want to help people leave Twitter to go to Lemmy. While the increase in posts would be great, the kind of toxicity and general culture that follows can most definitely ruin a website.

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[-] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago

issue detected: we are having trouble collecting enough personal info

[-] ky56@aussie.zone 35 points 6 months ago

Every time someone writes x.com I immediately think they're talking about a porn site. What a shit rebrand. Or what a perfect name I guess?

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[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 months ago

Looks like they're in A/B testing right now. You can have maximal impact by avoiding using twitter on those devices for the next few weeks.

[-] kworpy@lemm.ee 33 points 6 months ago

We're getting closer and closer to the complete destruction of this worthless shithole, keep it up elon!

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[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 6 months ago

Just block Twitter. Why does anyone use it anymore?

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago

I have an app called TrackerControl. It blocks a ton of shit. Here is one rule of thumb I have, if a website breaks because of this app, I'm not going to it. I don't need it. I can live without it. So many apps work no problem. The ones who don't, they want to fingerprint and track me.

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[-] cupcakezealot 24 points 6 months ago

saying they're forcing you to disable tracking protection is giving them too much credit.

they basically just botched the switchover from one domain to another and forgot about extra tracking domains etc so firefox flagged it as coming from a different domain.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 months ago

Forcing you

They can't make you

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 6 months ago

I just assumed this is because they fired all their experienced people and they don’t know how to host their website, so you’ve got junk coming from all sorts of domains in their attempt to patch something together that works.

[-] eRac@lemmings.world 13 points 6 months ago

That's exactly what it is. Firefox's advanced tracking protection blocks connections to social media sites from other sites so that social media can't see your behavior on the rest of the Internet.

Twitter started moving some things to a different domain and FF saw it as a third-party, blocking connections from it to the old Twitter domains.

Yet another reason the rebrand is dumb.

[-] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I saw a recommendation to use Firefox's container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it's disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.

Then just... enable the containers in private tabs? The option is right there in the extensions menu.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

Twitter forcing me to stop using Twitter is an incredible galaxy brain suicide maneuver. I can't wait to see it explode spectacularly in a blaze of stupid right in elon's face

[-] card797@champserver.net 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Me and my homies never used twitter in the first place.

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