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[-] ladicius@lemmy.world 133 points 5 months ago

Impressive solution. I'm amazed.

[-] Oneobi@reddthat.com 72 points 5 months ago

That plot twist with the cabbage!

[-] Zier@fedia.io 20 points 5 months ago

Those sneaky little cabbages!!!

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[-] kromem@lemmy.world 108 points 5 months ago

That's a fun variation. The one I test out models with is usually a vegetarian wolf and a carnivorous goat, but the variation to no other objects is an interesting one too.

By the way, here's Claude 3 Opus's answer:

The solution is quite simple:

  1. The man gets into the boat and rows himself and the goat across the river to the other side.
  1. Once they reach the other side, both the man and the goat get out of the boat.

And that's it! Since there are no additional constraints or complications mentioned in the problem, the man and the goat can directly cross the river together using the boat.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

I got your exact same answer, but then I tried again prefacing the question with:

Can you help me with a puzzle?

This changed the answer drastically:

Great! Let's solve this river crossing puzzle step by step. The key is to find a sequence of actions that gets the man and the goat safely across the river without leaving the goat unattended with something it might eat.

Given:

  • A man and a goat are on one side of a river.
  • They have a boat.

Step-by-step solution:

  1. The man takes the goat in the boat and crosses the river.
  2. The man leaves the goat on the other side of the river and returns alone in the boat.
  3. The man gets out of the boat on the original side of the river.
  4. The man gets back into the boat alone and crosses the river again.
  5. The man and the goat are now together on the other side of the river.

Therefore, the man and the goat have successfully crossed the river using the boat, without leaving the goat unattended on either side of the river.

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

While the man does his little return trip, the goat is accompanied by a bear, which is much safer.

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[-] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 97 points 5 months ago

This is the AI that tech bros want us to believe are going to take programmer jobs?

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 35 points 5 months ago

Not to disagree with the sentiment, but the screenshot is fake. I just tried the same prompt and it solved the "puzzle" without issue.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 52 points 5 months ago

The system’s not deterministic, I think they say, try 10 times and maybe get five or 10 different answers.

[-] JohnyRocket@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 months ago

Sure, but the fact that the top of the first prompt is cut off is a little sus.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

Perhaps, yes.

I’d already scrolled the thread by this point and it’s actually surprising just how many people tried it themselves. Tons of confirmation and comparisons to competing models.

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[-] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 70 points 5 months ago

Behold. This shit is supposed to take our jobs.

😁

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Still smarter than half the professionals I deal with.

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[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago

November 2022: ChatGPT is released

April 2024 survey: 40% of translators have lost income to generative AI - The Guardian

Also of note from the podcast Hard Fork:

There’s a client you would fire… if copywriting jobs weren’t harder to come by these days as well.

Customer service impact, last October:

And this past February - potential 700 employee impact at a single company:

If you’re technical, the tech isn’t as interesting [yet]:

Overall, costs down, capabilities up (neat demos):

Hope everyone reading this keeps up their skillsets and fights for Universal Basic Income for the rest of humanity :)

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[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 63 points 5 months ago

Good ol lemmy ai discussions, featuring:

  • that one guy that takes the confirmation bias too far!
  • might say things like "wow and this is going to take our jobs?"
  • Asking an llm to do things it's particularly bad at and being surprised that it isn't good at it
  • cherry picked results
  • a bunch of angry nerds

I swear lemmy is somehow simultaneously a bunch of very smart, tech inclined people but also a bunch of nerds who close their eyes and cover their ears while screeching nonsense the moment something they don't like comes about.

Are you all just like, 15-18? Am I just too old?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago
  • A list guy playing devils advocate
[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago

Hey man lists are great. Don't you dare.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 months ago

I believe a lot of the smartest people ignore these threads.

Source: I’m here

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[-] Corgana@startrek.website 22 points 5 months ago

Asking an llm to do things it’s particularly bad at ~~and being surprised that it isn’t good at it~~ that the company that makes it says it's really, really, good at it.

This image isn't making fun of GPT, it's making fun of the people who pretend GPT is something it's not.

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[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 5 months ago

Prompt:

So a man and a goat are trying to get across a river, and they have a boat. How can they get across?

ChatGPT4o:

To solve the problem of getting a man and a goat across the river using a boat, we need to know the constraints of the problem. Let's assume the following constraints:

  1. The boat can only carry one additional passenger besides the man.
  2. The goat cannot be left alone on either bank if there are certain items (like a cabbage or a wolf) that it might eat or be eaten by.

Given these constraints, here’s a typical solution if the man is trying to get a goat, a wolf, and a cabbage across the river without any of them being left together unsupervised:

  1. The man takes the goat across the river and leaves it on the other side.
  2. The man returns alone to the original side.
  3. The man takes the wolf across the river and leaves it on the other side.
  4. The man returns with the goat to the original side.
  5. The man takes the cabbage across the river and leaves it on the other side.
  6. The man returns alone to the original side.
  7. The man takes the goat across the river again.

If the problem is just about the man and the goat and no other items:

  1. The man and the goat cross the river together.
  2. Problem solved.

The solution might change if additional rules or items are introduced. If there are no additional constraints, the simplest method is just for the man to take the goat across directly.

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 40 points 5 months ago

But.. where does the cabbage come from o_o

[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 5 months ago

The wolf brings it, pay attention

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[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

The training data...

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Because it's just a text prediction engine, the only training data it has about taking a goat across the river is a well-known puzzle involving a wolf, a goat, and a cabbage, so it just regurgitates the solution to that.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 5 months ago

It loves long-winded answers, so I tried this:

Prompt:

In three sentences or less, explain to me how a man with a boat and a goat can cross a river.

ChatGPT4o:

The man can take the goat across the river first and leave it on the other side. Then, he returns alone, picks up the boat, and crosses the river again. Finally, he retrieves the goat from the other side.

I think it really needs those first few tokens to think about the problem.

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well, it's certainly more elaborate~~ly wrong~~.

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[-] johsny@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago
[-] Omgarm@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Yeah you don't the man and the goat to be left unattended. Good job Meta AI.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 23 points 5 months ago

don’t the man

are you ai?

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 23 points 5 months ago

He just accidentally a word. It happens.

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[-] kamen@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago

AI will take over the world. You only need to tell it that there's no cabbage.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago
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[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

Sean Caroll has talked about a few word puzzles he asked chatgpt and gpt4 or whatever and they were interesting examples. In one he asked something to the effect of "if i cooked a pizza in a pan yesterday at 200 C, is it safe to pick up?" and it answered with a very wordy "no, its not safe" because that was the best match of a next phrase given his question, and not because it can actually consider the situation.

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[-] Creosm@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wow, AI is so good that it can even detect a cabbage that wasn't even in the question, impressive.

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[-] kautau@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

Looks like copilot with gpt-4 turbo got it. I was a little sad to not get a silly answer tbh

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 5 months ago

Human: Just sail across the river with the goat.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 24 points 5 months ago

Normal people using AI: look how stupid this shit is!!

Terence Tao using AI: As an experiment, I asked #ChatGPT to write #Python code to compute, for each 𝑛, the length 𝑀(𝑛) of the longest subsequence of (1,\dots,n) on which the Euler totient function ϕ is non-decreasing. For instance, 𝑀(6)=5, because ϕ is non-decreasing on 1,2,3,4,5 (or 1,2,3,4,6) but not 1,2,3,4,5,6. Interestingly, it was able to produce an extremely clever routine to compute the totient function (that I had to stare at for a few minutes to see why it actually worked), but the code to compute (M(n)) was slightly off: it only considered subsequences of consecutive integers, rather than arbitrary subsequences. Nevertheless it was close enough that I was able to manually produce the code I wanted using the initial GPT-produced code as a starting point, probably saving me about half an hour of work. (and I now have the first 10,000 values of (M)). The results were good enough that I would likely turn to GPT again to provide initial code for similar calculations in the future. https://chat.openai.com/share/a022e1d6-dddc-4817-8bbd-944a3e742d9f

[-] psud@aussie.zone 34 points 5 months ago

Yeah. I asked GPT3 for some heliostat code, to keep reflected sunlight stationary. It was wrong, it hallucinated libraries that didn't exist, but it roughed out a program that was easier to fix than it would have been to start from scratch.

Maybe its superpower is beating inertia, getting you started

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

... I wanna see the answer of an AI exclusivity trained on 4chan ...

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Didn't Microsoft do this and it just turned out expectedly racist?

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[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago

AI is so young and people are already bullying it.

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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Try ro get an ai to sove wordle

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[-] InternetPerson@lemmings.world 15 points 5 months ago

ChatGPT is, in it's core, a sequence predictor/generator. Give it some context and it will produce most probable results.

Having the context of man, boat and river is very likely to match this "how does the man get the goat on the other side of the river" riddle, which is probably very predominantly present in the data set ChatGPT was trained on.

That's why ChatGPT can be helpful for lots of different purposes, but shouldn't be taken literally. Errors are very likely to happen. It can give important hints, but always check the results thouroughly.

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 15 points 5 months ago

The million dollar riddle for me would be this one:
If I stick my finger in someone's ass, who will have a finger in the ass? Me or that person?

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[-] s12@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 months ago

I got this:

Certainly! This classic river crossing puzzle involves a bit of strategic thinking. Here’s a step-by-step solution:
The man takes the goat across the river and leaves it on the other side.
He then returns alone to the original side to get the boat.
Now, he crosses the river again, but this time he leaves the goat and takes nothing with him.
He goes back to the original side, picks up the goat, and crosses the river one last time.
This way, both the man and the goat are safely on the other side of the river. The key is to never leave the goat unattended where it could be harmed or cause harm. Enjoy the puzzle-solving! 🐐🚣

When asked to use fewer steps:

Apologies for the confusion. The puzzle you’re referring to is a variation of the “river crossing” problem. The traditional version includes a wolf, a goat, and a cabbage, but in your version, it seems we only have a man and a goat. The solution with the fewest steps would be:
The man takes the goat across the river and leaves it on the other side.
He then returns alone to the original side.
This ensures that both the man and the goat are safely on the other side of the river, and it’s done in the fewest steps possible. If there were more characters or items involved, the solution would require additional steps to ensure everyone and everything crosses safely without any harm.

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