Why does everyone keep bring up my kid dating? In my day you could date kids and no one would bat an eye. Now the woke mob says it's bad. Go woke go broke
Good. It's what he deserves. I was 9 or 10 when that happened and I remember thinking it was so gross and being confused why people were just like...cool with it? I'm glad people are calling him out now - better late than never, I guess.
Boomers have a much higher tolerance of SA and grooming. Look at how it's just accepted that Rock Stars could have underaged... pursuits.
I know this won't be popular, but it's for a few reasons:
I speak strongly about this because I think we are doing great damage to mental health to repeatedly claim it's a mental disorder to have a completely normal and common biological attraction.
But don't get me wrong, I 100% support protecting minors from predators. I agree these laws should exist, I just wish people would stop pretending that there is something wrong with the attraction itself.
I don't really have an issue with a 16 year old dating an 18 year old. They're close enough that the age thing wouldn't be an issue, but 17 and 38 is a bit different.
I also don't really have an issue with adults being attracted to... people below the legal limit so long as they don't act on it. It's very difficult to have this discussion when most people can't grasp that desires don't always lead to actions and have problems separating fiction from reality. There are people with rape fetishes that find healthy, consensual ways to simulate the act, something that the mainstream can't really cope with.
But that's not really the discussion we're having. Jerry Seinfeld had a teenaged girlfriend when he was 38. Celebrities using their positions of power isn't acceptable.
Romeo and Juliet laws show we absolutely have some tolerance for adults dating teenagers. And nobody I know is saying a 17 year old can't be sexually attractive. The problem is they essentially unarmed against the average 30 year old. And I'd much rather draw a line somewhere than the actual puritanical practice of marrying teenagers to a 40 year old man who happens to have the most money available.
You're telling on yourself quite a bit here. Your mental health doesn't have to suffer if you find a "biologically mature" woman attractive but after a certain age if you're seeing a "hot woman" and not "a young girl" there definitely is some deviation from the norm.
We're talking about sexual attraction to children that don't know how to file their taxes and are just learning what it means to be an adult. If your sexual attraction to someone is purely physical and not affected by your rational mind telling you that they're a kid then there really is a bit of a disconnect there.
Maybe you're closer in age to them than I am, there's certainly a range of "adult ages" where people are still developing mentally, but when you're old enough that you're finding a woman SEXUALLY attractive who is the age of your daughter or your friends' daughters that's a red flag and worth some introspection.
You’re telling on yourself quite a bit here.
I'm perfectly comfortable with who I am attracted to. Don't worry about my mental health. There is no telling on myself, I'm 100% open about it.
I just recognize that this is the same BS trauma that we've been inflicting on gay people by telling them that their perfectly normal and natural attraction is some kind of mental issue. Just like how I see through when someone claims gay people have a mental problem, I see through the implications that men being attracted to young women is indicative of some kind of mental issue.
but after a certain age if you’re seeing a “hot woman” and not “a young girl” there definitely is some deviation from the norm.
We are talking about a young woman in her prime reproductive years. Objectively speaking, evolutionarily, it would make sense that men are attracted to this. In fact, I would argue that if you don't find them physically attractive, you are the one deviating from the norm. Now to be clear, don't confuse what I'm saying with emotional and intellectual attractiveness.
We’re talking about sexual attraction to children
No we're not, we're talking about being attracted to women in their prime reproductive years. They are young and likely immature and we should have laws that protect them, but let's not conflate that with the physical attraction being a mental illness.
I'm probably as old or older than you. I've talked to people in their 40s who I find completely emotionally immature and intellectually unattractive, and I've talked to teenagers whom I've found to be mature and the conversation to be intellectually stimulating. Although the latter is few and far between, and getting further apart as I age.
Would I want to have a relationship with them? No. Would I want to have sex with them? Sure.
prime reproductive years
girls enter puberty so much earlier than boys, their capable of reproduction anywhere from 10-12. When you talk about "prime reproductive years," know that it includes girls as young as 10. So... stop using that term. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and inferring that you actually mean girls that are on the very cusp of womanhood, like, ages 17-19, but others may not.
Women are hot, girls are not. Some girls can appear to be older than they are, and it's confusing when confronted with a genuinely attractive woman that is not yet 18, because we're caught between the confusing notions of "I am attracted to this person" and "this person is not yet old enough to to be engaged with in a socially conscious manner." It's not wrong to find the person attractive, it IS wrong to engage with them in a manner reserved for those that are fully realized adults. For my purposes, I'm putting adulthood at around age 22-25, when your brain is pretty much fully developed.
So with that being said, No, Jerry Seinfeld didn't do a bad thing by thinking a 17 year old girl attractive, he DID do a bad thing by engaging with her as if she was a fully formed adult.
"Jerry Seinfeld and Shoshanna Lonstein Gruss claimed they were "just friends" in the beginning of their relationship and only went public when she turned 18..."
"...Shoshanna is a person, not an age. She is extremely bright. She's funny, sharp, very alert. We just get along. You can hear the click."
And don't forget:
It wasn't that bad.... Oh, yeah, it was that bad.
Yeah I remember first hearing about it after watching Seinfeld (the show) a few years back and thought it must be some overreaction for a bad joke or something, then I heard the recording and well, definitely not an overreaction
Shoshanna is a person, not an age
Um aktuly, it's called ephibaphilia
“If you don’t like it, cancel me!”
Jerry probably shouldn’t be talking about other people’s ability to make bad decisions.
He just did a little whoopsie!
Jerry Seinfeld and his family were in Caliber 3. During their visit to Israel last week, they came to us for a special and exciting activity with displays of combat, Krav Maga, assault dogs and lots of Zionism. It was great.”
Hey that guy from the meme, did you know he’s a Bible thumping Christian bigot?
He is a shitty person
"Pedophiles...who are these people??"
I dont like jerry seinfeld at all but implying that he is a pedo is completely unsubstantiated. I think the scandals here are gross but everyone is clearly above the age of consent.
What is the deal with hyperbolically claiming that Jerry Seinfeld, who dated a high school girl, is a pedophile?
True, I was being hyperbolic. 17 is the age of consent in New York, so he was skimming REEEEALLY close to the line.
It's still fucking gross. He was almost 40 and dating someone far less mature, rich, powerful, and famous than he was. A young person doesn't magically grow up the day they turn the age of consent in their home state.
I completely agree, I just think that the term pedophile is "charged" enough that it should be carefully applied
It's always amused me as a Jewish person that Jerry Seinfeld is so Jewish that he's even only pedophilic with Jewish girls.
I remember we had a coworker (in his late 20s or early 30s) gushing on how he celebrated his gfs 18th birthday. Then we all started doing the math when earlier he had mentioned they had been together for 2 years.
was it ex-Liverpool striker Sadio Mane?
Senegal star Sadio Mane (31) marries longtime girlfriend Aisha Tamba (18)
age added to headline by me
Jerry Seinfeld's teen girlfriend is probably past middle age by now.
If she was 17 in 93, she's 48 now.
Wow, that's getting up there... Wait, she's only a few years older than me.
Oh god
And her parents were okay with this? Wow!
As gross as it is, 38 year old celebrity millionaire isn't the same as 38 year old Ted in shipping and receiving.
Pretty much how I regard Seinfeld.
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