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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 77 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Windows 11 lags like shit on a laptop with an Intel i7 and an Nvidia mx130. Nintendo switch is basically the weakest handheld device on the market.

[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 28 points 7 months ago

For context the nintendo switch uses the nvida tega x1 processor. Which has also been shiped on the nvidia shield. So for context the gaming console is using the equivent processor. FOR A ANDROID STREAMING BOX

for more details https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_X1

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

Nintendo never hid this. The specs showed a Tegra X1 when Switch was released. It was always public knowledge that Switch is an Ouya with an ecosystem and released games.

None of your post is new but it's like you want to drum up outrage that a company used easily available hardware that didn't require custom hardware like Playstation or Xbox (which SHARE nearly identical AMD chipsets!)

Why get mad at the hardware choice for an 8 year old console?

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

The switch has the worst graphics I've seen on a handheld. My kid has it and the games look like trash compared to my ps4, pc and even the steam deck.

[-] R00bot 28 points 7 months ago

This is a crazy thing to say about a 7 year old handheld lmfaooooo

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Exactly, it's 7 years old, so my argument stands. The switch is trash because it is very old and has weak graphics.

[-] Penta@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah yes, because graphics is the only thing that defines how good games are

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago
[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago
[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

~~Good~~ Lame troll.

FTFY!

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[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Oh boy, I hope you don't compare the NES graphics with a PS5!

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Right? Like the Atari 2600. Absolutely HORRIBLE graphics!!!!!!!!!!111!!11!!!!111!!

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Yup, that's even worse. Old games are just garbage. You can be as sarcastic as you'd like, very few games were actually good, the rest are just trash. People love that shit just because of nostalgia, shit was/is horrendous. Lmfao

[-] Zangoose@lemmy.one 6 points 7 months ago
[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That's what I'm thinking.

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[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 26 points 7 months ago

You must not have seen a lot of handhelds then. The Switch is the most powerful portable console ever... And honestly the first party games look and run pretty great for the price.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 16 points 7 months ago

That does bring up the question of if the Steam Deck counts as a handheld console or not. Going off the wikipedia descriptions of game consoles and handheld consoles, I think it probably counts.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah I thought about it but IMO the Deck is a PC, as it runs a PC OS, games and software out of the box.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

The most powerful portable console ever

Yea because no one besides nintendo makes any portable consoles anymore. That’s like Apple saying "It’s the best iPhone we ever made", every time they introduce a new one…

And it’s not even necessarily true, if you count the steamdeck as a console, which one might.

And still, the hardware of the switch was already obsolete when it launched. The Tegra X1‘s only redeeming quality is a comparatively high graphics performance compared to most off the shelf mobile SoC, but even it is slow compared to an iPhone 11 or heck a 250€ tablet with a Snapdragon 7 Gen 1 blows the switch out of the water, performance wise. You’ll even get more memory, more storage, etc.

That isn’t to say, the switch is bad. The performance is adequate for the typical Nintendo games but you can’t tell me the recent pokemon games or Zelda TodK run great, barely hitting 30fps. Which is not surprising, considering most midrange mobile phones are quicker by now and the switch is stuck with a graphics chip that most closely compares to a GTX 830M. A 5 generations and 10 years old graphics chip that wasn’t even fast when it was new.

And back to the steamdeck again: while it is a bit more expensive than a switch, it’s still a damn good deal, especially on the used market and even able to emulate switch games with better performance than the switch itself. And, unlike the switch, it is actually able to play modern games fairly well, while the switch either runs them at subpar quality or only via streaming.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

I was responding to the claim that the switch "has the worst graphics on a handheld", which is obviously wrong.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

It does however have the worst graphics of a mainstream handheld console that is currently produced/sold.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah if you consider the steam deck and co to be consoles, which I don't.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Two things: While I'd agree, that most PC-Based gaming handhelds are not consoles, I would disagree in case of the steam deck. Its software and especially user interface are purpose built for its controls and it works just like any other console, unless you don't want it to.

Secondly, the commenter before did state that the switch had the worst graphics of any handheld. They did not specify handheld consoles. Steam Deck, Ayaneo, ROG Ally and co might or might not be consoles, depending on who you ask, but they most definitely are handheld gaming devices. And handheld gaming devices with better performance than the switch at that.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

The various Gameboys, DS, Vita, ... are all handhelds with much worse performances and graphics than the Switch. I've owned quite a few handheld consoles since the original Gameboy, and when I bought the Switch it had the best-looking games I had ever seen. Hence my response.

But yeah it's been gathering dust since I got the SD :)

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

The performance is adequate for the typical Nintendo games but you can’t tell me the recent pokemon games or Zelda TodK run great, barely hitting 30fps.

I think you might know this, but a hacked Switch can be overclocked (to both safe and unsafe values) and you can pretty much fix most of the bad performing games (you can't fix ass broken games such as Batman Arkham Knight though).

So yeah, still many games will look and behave better somewhere else, but OC the Switch can lead you to good results, if you have any over there and wanna give it a try (newer models require hardmod, which sucks, but once this annoyance is sorted out, a new true era will begin for the Switch lol).

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah, since Nintendo fucked us over so much with the hardware (especially on the Oled version), just hack it to run much hotter than usual, great idea!!

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Safe values will hardly make any significant temps increase, and still give you a better experience.

What is wrong with the OLED version BTW?

I have the original Switch and that thing can be hacked with a paperclip lol and after many years of usage and OC my battery and unit still performs well, according to some homebrew tools the battery is like at 90% of its lifespan, granted most of its usage is docked, but the "additional heat" is there yet.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Same old hardware, no real upgrades besides screen burn in and blacker blacks. The first switch was already outdated, about 5 years later and they give us the same tired hardware?? Bullshit cash grab imo

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Completely wrong. You think it's "powerful" because the graphics on its games are absolute trash. Most powerful. Lmao

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Worse than the gameboy?

But seriously. Graphics are nice, but without good gameplay, i'm just watching a movie.

You can have all the fancy graphics you want, but they dont make games good. They just enhance games. If the game is boring, then all the graphics in the world won't save it.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The switch is fun to tinker with if you have a hackable one. I wrote a guide on XDA on how to install Android on a Switch. I didn't actually do any of the hard work to port anything or anything technical, just wrote the guide. I didn't expect it to become like the guide but it did. I saw it used by Linus Tech Tips once.

I kinda felt bad for never updating it. I dunno if it still is up to date enough to still be useful.

https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-how-to-install-android-on-your-switch-step-by-step.3952300/

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

I think I used that guide to try out Android on the switch back in the day.

[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Has Android gotten any better on switch? It was sluggish last time I tried

[-] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 34 points 7 months ago

Damn. Dude is brave. Pretty sure Nintendo sends a hit squad over this kind of thing. /s - ish

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 17 points 7 months ago

Straight to Nintendo Guantanamo.

[-] atocci@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago
[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago
[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Where (non discript italilian man wearing red clothing with a mustache) Is going to break your feckin knees.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

With a green pipe

[-] Lightfire228@pawb.social 32 points 7 months ago

The thumbnail is a shot of kde plasma, not w11

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

KDE Plasma is my favourite Windows distribution! So much faster than Safari.

[-] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

Underrated comment!

[-] A_Porcupine@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Running a VM of Windows 11.

[-] Raxiel@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

Do the adverts still work? I'd hate for people to miss out on the full experience.

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