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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago

If the kids had been older, I wouldn’t have much of a problem with this.

[-] philomory@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I feel like people commenting didn’t read the article, there kids as young as 5 years old just… left by the side of the road.

If you imagine this being done to high schoolers, it’d be easier to wrap your head around (although even then the fact that he ditched everyone on the entire bus is a bit insane). But just, leaving a 5-year old by the side of the road?

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if it's 17 year olds, the amount of liability you expose the school/municipality to is massive.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Oh, for sure. I’m not even going to pretend to have an informed legal opinion. I’m just talking about my own personal feelings.

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kids as young as 5 years old just… left by the side of the road

I'm a school bus driver in the US and here you're not even allowed to unload kids that young at their actual stop unless there's an adult there waiting to take them. Doing this shit here would get you fired for sure and possibly arrested.

[-] TheAndrewBrown@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Imagine you, as an adult, are riding a bus and a handful of crazy people are acting like assholes so the driver makes all of you get off the bus, potential miles from where you live. I don’t think this would be ok even with older people. Plus there’s the fact that we don’t even know how bad the misbehavior was. Unless every single one were causing a significant danger, there’s no reason to kick them off.

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[-] orphiebaby@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This comments section makes me sick. Kids are fucking kids. They don't "behave"— they're just trying to enjoy life, they're just reacting how they know, and they're still learning. You don't dump five-year-olds on the side of the road where they almost get hit by cars (that was part of the news article).

This also sounds like a great way to go to prison with a lot of parents extremely angry at you.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they’re just trying to enjoy life

Maybe. A neighborhood bully went after me with a makeshift whip around that age. I lost my boot in the snow trying to run away fast enough. Most people are fine as you say. Some...are just broken.

You don’t dump five-year-olds on the side of the road

Strongly agree here. I don't care what they were doing; they're still kids in need of adult supervision.

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[-] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

If the little bastards can’t behave, they can walk

[-] orphiebaby@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of child development. This is why we were abused as kids.

For so many goddamned reasons— especially if you don't know anything about the kids— the word "behave" in this usage should not be allowed in adult usage. All it does is perpetuate harmful and false beliefs about children.

[-] Hellsadvocate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah this wasn't how the bus driver should've behaved. Perhaps decline driving them or drop them off in a safer location. They were 5 years old for crying out loud.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

At the same time, there is clearly a need to show that actions have consequences and that if you break rules you're punished for it. If the driver pulled into an abandoned parking lot and made them deboard in nice weather and stand there for 15 minutes before resuming, that would be fair. As adults it's on us to guide children, and that means reinforcing good actions and discouraging bad actions -- escalating to punishment if they keep acting out.

I agree with you that the person you're responding to is being absurd. Punishment has to be carefully done. You need to create a situation that is undesirable but has absolutely no danger to their health nor wellbeing. Is that difficult? Yes. But that's why we're the adults.

The school should have worked with the driver much earlier to address the situation, before it escalated to this point. Even adults can only take so much, but it's still on us to not lose control.

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

A fucking 5 year old? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago
[-] SirSimonSpamalot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, fuck em!

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

kids are much much more dangerous than adults.

kids just love to kill

kittens, puppies, just something to smack and smash flr a normal kid

[-] orphiebaby@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

What the hell was your experience with children? Or are you a psychopath, and you're just projecting it?

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

That person wants to live in North Korea so make of that what you will.

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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

If you can't handle 5-10 year olds, then maybe don't have a job driving them to and from school?

[-] giacomo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

lol, I'm sure there are dozens of willing applicants

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Do gen-x era bus drivers now live in Australia, that is a Gen X move right there! Misbehave and you walk.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I could see gen-z do it too. They give no fucks, since the world is ending anyway and none of us are rich enough to buy our way into politics and do something about it.

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[-] Sir_Osis_of_Liver@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

That was a form of detention for us. They'd keep us until the buses had left, then let us go. We had the choice of walking home or phoning our parents. I did a lot of walking in the '70s.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

My bus driver left if you didn't make it on time. I say bus, but they were really just vans (Opel/Vauxhall Vivaro I believe) fitted to carry people, because it was a small school and we were all spread out on the countryside. We didn't even call it a bus, it was "school taxi."

My mother didn't have a car or driver's license, and no buses went anywhere near where we lived. There were a few occasions where I did miss the bus, so I had to walk home. Looking at Google Maps it says it's only about a two hour walk. I recall it happening in the winter though, lots of snow, and me being fairly young (around 9 I think) I didn't get home until half past nine in the evening haha.

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[-] BURN@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I can’t imagine being a bus driver. 15 years ago when I was riding the bus regularly we were shits, but we knew where the limit was. Kids now don’t seem to know where to stop.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I'm a school bus driver. I tried to enforce the mask-wearing rules towards the end of COVID and some of the kids literally threatened to kill me with a plastic bag over my head or with guns they said they would get from their dads. Nothing was done despite this all being video recorded. A few months later the same kids threw goldfish (the crackers, not the actual fish) at me and got banned from the bus for a week. Go figure.

My only real problem was with their choice of snack food. If they'd thrown white chocolate Kit-Kats at me I would have just picked them up and said nothing about it.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You illustrate my point perfectly.

Y’all are saints for putting up with those little shitheads. It really sucks that the schools won’t do anything about threats of violence either, and that’s something I’ve heard from teachers too.

Covid really fucked this generation up. I was lucky enough to be well into college by the time it hit. With these kids their formative years were entirely online

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

My dad is one currently. He actually likes it. Although he has had COVID three times because of it.

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[-] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

“And I’ll fucking do it again” - Bus Driver

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If they’re gonna fuck around, best they learn about the find out part now before they become adults

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

If they were 15-18 year olds.. then ok

Some were young as 5

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[-] Uphillbothways@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

meh. modern kids have phones. they weren't outside cell coverage. probably deserved it

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

My stupid fucking brain read "Aussie" and immediately concluded that this must've happened in the ass crack middle of nowhere.

[-] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Back in my day I had to walk through the outback barefoot with nothing but an apron.

[-] ChaosInstructor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

i would have dreamt of having nothing but an apron...i was walking barefoot on glass shards hunted by dingos and crocs...sometimes even dropbears while my dad shot at me with a shotgun...i would have been lucky with nothing but an apron...try to tell kids today and they wont believe you...

[-] fiat_lux@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

For what it's worth, it was the very outer suburban/rural edge of the city. The centre of Brisbane is 50min drive.

So probably not as post-apocalyptic wasteland as you imagined, just very low density housing and a lot of grasslands. Culturally barren, perhaps.

[-] TheKarion@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Unfathomably based

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago

They will be fine. My bus driver did this often cause we were complete fuckheads.

[-] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 1 year ago

This is like if cops couldn't handle misbehaved individuals, ... - oh

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