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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

hot take?

Edit: got nothing against Ubuntu, it's Linux after all and that's what matters 🌻 Edit2: people took this very seriously for being a shower thought..

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[-] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 212 points 10 months ago

Anyone using Ubuntu is one person less using windows. I call that a win. Everyone has to start somewhere!

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago

Ubuntu was my training wheels 15 years ago

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago

Fuckin love ubuntu despite knowing it's a cold take. How about that dogshit?

[-] skygirl@lemmy.world 114 points 10 months ago
[-] juergen@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 10 months ago

The snap infrastructure is indeed what some object to the most.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

That’s why I finally switched away from it. Currently doing a stint with Fedora 40 on my laptop; it’s pretty slick.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Im of the opinion that the distro is far less important than the Desktop Environment. Ubuntu only really "feels like Ubuntu" because of GNOME.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago

Most of what differentiates a distro from another is one of:

  • package manager
  • default packages/configurations (including the desktop environment)
  • init system

The rest well… it’s Linux.

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[-] brap@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Ha same here. I'd try something else but I really just cba to start again on my server and desktop.

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago

Arch Linux user here to say... Ubuntu's fine, man. Love all the derivatives that can take advantage of the core Ubuntu system (e.g., Mint, which I've installed for family members).

I love Arch. I use it all the time. I will not inflict it on any family members.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago

And for those of us that love Arch but don't have time for it, EndeavourOS.

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[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 10 months ago

the problem with ubuntu is canonical, it's a shame it's got the reputation as "the third OS" when it's basically the only distro that's trying to replicate the walled gardens of microsoft and apple.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 20 points 10 months ago

Yeah, well said.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 10 months ago

It's one rich dudes toy is how I see it. It's a good distro but once I tried to uninstall some things and it wouldn't let me and so that was the end of it for me at home. I use the server version at work for one machine.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

Only linux newbies and weirdos hate on Ubuntu. It's a good all around operating system. Not the best choice and Canonical fails a lot but it's still a net good.

[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 50 points 10 months ago

The neck beards that judge someone's distro choice without knowing their use cases don't represent the Linux community. Just use the best tool for the job

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 21 points 10 months ago

I'm not convinced Ubuntu is a good tool for many jobs.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

To be fair, most tools are pretty bad at all other jobs besides the one it was made for. Same goes for an OS. If Ubuntu is made to off ramp people more comfortable with Windows, then that's just a fine purpose for aln OS.

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[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Absolutely loving the replies to this.

This is how the extended Linux community wins for me.

Sure we talk shit for fun. The Arch BTW stuff, the Gentoo shade and Slackware side-eye. But its all in jest, ultimately.

Well done.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 36 points 10 months ago

I have used Ubuntu for years. I'm not a noob by any means, and would consider myself more advanced than most users. I used to love tinkering, but once I had a set of scripts built that set everything up just the way I like it on a new install, the need to tinker faded.

I have recently switched to Debian due to bloat and snaps, but I won't ever judge an Ubuntu user.

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[-] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 10 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I have been disliking Ubuntu because they use:

  • Proprietary pieces in their code
  • Telemetry (spyware)
  • Snap packages by default
[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And thats fine. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is based on actual things.

As long as you don't denigrate and insult others for using it, or try to pretend you're the superior linux hackerman for not using it, You're all good.

Ubuntu is great. It works.

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 months ago

No, Apple gives off hipster vibes to the average PC user. Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them, so that when you slide that phone out of your pocket there's that Apple logo on it. So that your bubble is blue in iMessage. That's hipster shit.

The average PC user has never seen Linux running on a PC and doesn't understand what a "distro" is at all. Ubuntu and its default Gnome DE isn't as easily mistaken for Windows as KDE or Cinnamon is, so this one might spark the conversation a little faster, and "average" Windows users tend to compare Linux users of all stripes to vegans.

WIthin the Linux community, Until maybe 5 years ago Ubuntu had the "beginner OS" stank to it. "Start here until you're ready to edit xorg.conf like a real man." Canonical has been shifting away from "Linux for the masses" and more toward "Leveraging synergies" to the point that I straight-up recommend against Ubuntu for daily use as their Snap ecosystem has a lot of disadvantages for desktop users especially gamers. To me, Ubuntu is a radial arm saw, the wonder do-all death trap grampa won't shut up about that no one makes anymore. In the modern day, best practice is to forget they exist.

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[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm rly happy when ppl switch to a GNU/Linux OS, tho I would never recommend Ubuntu to anyone (anymore), since Linux Mint has a much saner no bs team that is not fucked over by a corporate

Or just plain Debian, which is wonderful as well

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 23 points 10 months ago

Ubuntu is a gateway drug. Its lickable Fisher-Price interface is easy to use for basic tasks like web browsing, email and so on, and the always present sidebar provides reassurance. Once users start chafing against the limitations, they can move to forks like Xubuntu, or all the way to Debian itself, or if they really want to get their hands dirty, Arch.

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[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 22 points 10 months ago

Ubuntu is great, until you find a better distribution

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[-] AlphaAutist@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Ubuntu was my first Linux desktop distro and I’ve been using it for 4ish years. I really liked it but I no longer feel like I can trust canonical after the whole ‘secretly install Firefox snap when installed with apt cli’ thing. It wouldn’t have even been a big deal if they just said it was only available as a snap but the execution pissed me off to the point of switching

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 19 points 10 months ago

I remember back in the day when Slackware was both the elitist and the loser's Linux distro at the same time.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago

Back in my day we used to fax pictures of floppies.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Use whatever works for you. Don't take selection advice from people that make their operating system of choice a crusade and identity.

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago

Show Ubuntu some love. Ubuntu is the entry distro of many us. But you move on once you grow up a little.

[-] sag@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

I use Ubuntu because I have just 2 brain cell

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I use Ubuntu because if we want any chance of proper mainstream usability of Linux, this distro is the best bet. And to help my family with it, I need it ready myself.

[-] dumblederp@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I use mint because I only have one. It's simple and does everything I want. I don't need complicated linux, I need a web browser and a NAS VLC terminal.

[-] fossphi@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

I too listen to the Linux after dark podcast

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[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Why would Ubuntu give off hipster vibes? It's literally the default standard for Linux.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Because not using windows or MacOS makes you a hipster in the eyes of many people

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

I use Ubuntu for all my home lab servers unless there's a specific requirement for something else.

I never install the desktop version except when experimenting, and in those cases, I'd be just as happy using any other distro, since those use cases are fairly limited both in scope and duration.

Ubuntu is just the os I put on virtual servers.

Judge me if you want. I really could not possibly care less. I also use Windows on my daily driver desktop.

I'm considering going canonical MAAS for a new deployment of open stack servers which will be replacing my current hypervisors (which are VMware), pushing Ubuntu and OpenStack onto systems for use and probably also using MAAS to roll out future virtual machines in OpenStack.

I like the canonical Kool aid.

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[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Everyone that I know that uses linux is using Ubuntu. I'm the wierdo using Debian

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

if linux is hipster than i guess its time i start my openbsd arc

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

not even a hot take. the only people who seem to hate ubuntu are the hardcore linux nerds who like custom building kernels and shit- which, honestly, more power to them, but i have the big dumb and want click button make work.

Admittedly I don't really like how they're handling packages these days, it's a bit messy with the whole snap vs flatpak vs apt thing, but whatever.

I currently run ubuntu alongside my windows install just because I needed linux to experiment with AI models, and the only AMD drivers that work for ROCm support are Ubuntu only (packages are permanently dependency-broken on other distros).

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago

You could use Linux Mint and there wouldn't be any snaps plus the system will run better

[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

Funny description came up about Linux this weekend from my father in law. He kept referring to Linux as an "aftermarket OS". First time I've heard it out like that, didn't bother responding tbh lol.

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