No. We can still pay workers much better and make much more lower priced affordable models.

Stop giving the CEOs, upper management, investors, etc., millions and millions of dollars. I don't care what anyone says.

We can have the sub 10k priced EV, or even less, like China has. They can still make money on luxury/performance "status" models.

This is all about keeping extreme wealth for the extreme wealthy. Wall Street, etc. Full stop.

We can have very well payed workers and much cheaper yet still quality vehicles.

Modern American cars suck

Chevy has notoriously weak body panels. The 3.6 they're throwing in everything has issues with the cylinder deactivation system. The 4 bangers are made in Korea from Daewoo. They also have weird electrical issues, usually due to the 2 battery system. Certain ones shipped with features built in but not wired up and functional (heated seats). They have to retrofit newer models with features from older ones (heated wheel in the tahoes must be retrofitted from 21 or older models), no blind zone either on the tahoes which is strange for a new vehicle in it's class.

Ford had engine fire recalls on most of their trucks and large SUVs. Transmission issues plagued Fords as well if you bought automatic like 90% of Americans. 1.0 EcoSport had a dogshit motor. The only two Ford products worth buying are a Mustang or a Ford Edge if you're a mainstream consumer. I consider the raptor and enthusiast truck

Dodge/Chrysler has been consistent, but consistently mid. Transmission issues in all the trucks. Most of the SUVs like the compass and Cherokee run a fiat 4 cylinder. The 5.7 hemi gets only marginally better performance than the 3.6 pentastar. The 6.4 and 5.7 have lifter issues. The 3.6 had some minor misfire issues in the Pacificas. Some of the new jeep wranglers are a 2.0 turbo. It helps when you design the same vehicle since 2013.

Post COVID cars worth buying

Anything Toyota/Lexus if you want the best all around

Anything Mazda that's naturally aspirated, or turbo if you care about your car maintenance.

Anything Hyundai/Kia that has a Korean motor (1.6t) and you maintain your car. The American made motors for Hyundai are terrible.

Altima and 4 cylinder rogue is fine. 6 cylinder maxima and Murano is fine. CVT isn't as bad as it used to be. I don't trust the 3 cylinder turbo.

Subaru is mid, the fa24 is good. The FB25 is mid and have issues after 100k if maintenance isn't done and PCV isn't maintained. The CVT is okay. The wrx 6 speed is mid. The STI is discountinued but had the best transmission. If you like expensive projects, go with any performance Subaru, and spend 3-4k on an STi drivetrain, it'll bolt up 9 times out of 10

Honda 1.5t has head gasket issues. The 2.0 is great, but they're not really using it much. The civic SI is mid and gets outperformaned by a Jetta.

Volkswagens are great if you maintain your car well. I have a controversial argument that the ea888 2.0t is the best all around 4 cylinder, even the k series.

Luxury brands like Audi, bmw, Mercedes and the such aren't great for a mainstream consumer. Enthusiasts that do research will buy them anyway. For the average person, they're too expensive to maintain, and the luxury features people seek can be attained in a Signature trim Mazda for a fraction of the price.

I'm autistic, I work around cars every day, and I really really like cars.

What a claim to fame. The best absurdly large pedestrian killers for suburban parents to pick up groceries with.

Electrics, then.

I've been reading reviews from EU and Australia. The initial quality has improved a lot.

and subsidize their industries indefinitely

People keep saying this that are fully aware the US subsidizes its industries too. Yeah? They subsidize their electric vehicles? Fuckin good!

That's true and all but this decision is solely about oil barons and their fat fucking profits.

Its no coincidence that they are going after electric cars and solar panels. Chinese workers have had it rough for 30 years but green tech is where we draw the line and not literally everything else, who believes this?

Its not to protect the economy, it's not to protect the Chinese workers.

This is only about oil profits.

this is the japanese scare all over again

So Musk doesn't get any tax incentives and write offs?

that is the same myth that big pharma explains why Americans pay so much more for medicine.

https://newrepublic.com/article/153864/innovation-drug-price-myth

US automakers have expressed that they are fine economically making expensive cars for rich people. of course that is after 80 years of lobbying to under cut public transit and trains.

Saying both parties are the same is an early sign of dementia.