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[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 34 points 7 months ago

RIP in pieces Stack Overflow

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The enshitification will continue while moral tanks.

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[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 32 points 7 months ago

Aren’t a lot of answers outdated on stackoverflow?

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[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I will answer some questions with my old account using gpt 4 to poison the data.

If you want to poison SO a little at the same time providing valid answers that help users, use outlook.com email domain for new accounts. It seems to not have anti throwaway countermeasures while being accepted by SO. And it seems fitting to bash the corporate with the corporate.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If we can't delete our questions and answers, can we poison the well by uploading masses of shitty questions and answers? If they like AI we could have it help us generate them.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 26 points 7 months ago

lol wow this is going even more poorly than I thought it would, and I thought my kneejerk reaction to the initial announcement was quite pessimistic.

[-] johny_joe_1975@discuss.online 23 points 7 months ago

Thing just like reddit, but now in professional community

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

You can't quit, you're fired!!!!

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[-] 0oWow@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Anyone care to explain why people would care that they posted to a public forum that they don't own, with content that is now further being shared for public benefit?

The argument that it's your content becomes false as soon as you shared it with the world.

[-] Emotet@slrpnk.net 36 points 7 months ago

It's not shared for public benefit, though. OpenAI, despite the Open in their name, charges for access to their models. You either pay with money or (meta)data, depending on the model.

Legally, sure. You signed away your rights to your answers when you joined the forum. Morally, though?

People are pissed that SO, that was actively encouraging Mods to use AI detection software to prevent any LLM usage in the posted questions and answers, are now selling the publicly accessible data, made by their users for free, to a closed-source for-profit entity that refuses to open itself up.

Basically the same story as with reddit.

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[-] CthulhuDreamer@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

I am not deleting anything. They can have all of my poorly written misleading answers.

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[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 22 points 7 months ago

Instead of solely deleting content, what if authors had instead moved their content/answers to something self-owned? Can SO even claim ownership legally of the content on their site? Seems iffy in my own, ignorant take.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago

For years, the site had a standing policy that prevented the use of generative AI in writing or rewording any questions or answers posted. Moderators were allowed and encouraged to use AI-detection software when reviewing posts. Beginning last week, however, the company began a rapid about-face in its public policy towards AI.

I listened to an episode of The Daily on AI, and the stuff they fed into to engines included the entire Internet. They literally ran out of things to feed it. That's why YouTube created their auto-generated subtitles - literally, so that they would have more material to feed into their LLMs. I fully expect reddit to be bought out/merged within the next six months or so. They are desperate for more material to feed the machine. Everything is going to end up going to an LLM somewhere.

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[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why?? Please make this make sense. Having AI to help with coding is ideal and the greatest immediate use case probably. The web is an open resource. Why die on this stupid hill instead of advocating for a privacy argument that actually matters?

Edit: Okay got it. Hinder significant human progress because a company I don't like might make some more money from something I said in public, which has been a thing literally forever. You guys really lack a lot of life skills about how the world really works huh?

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Because being able to delete your data from social networks you no longer wish to participate in or that have banned you, as long as they specifically haven't paid you for the your contributions, is a privacy argument that actually matters, regardless and independent of AI.

In regards to AI, the problem is not with AI in general but with proprietary for-profit AI getting trained with open resources, even those with underlying license agreements that prevent that information being monetized.

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[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago

This sort of thing is so self-sabotaging. The website already has your comment, and a license to use it. By deleting your stuff from the web you only ensure that the AI is definitely going to be the better resource to go to for answers.

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

I'm not sure about that... in Europe don't you have the right to insist that a website no longer use your content?

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