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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 246 points 4 months ago

"ChatGPT, how do I use a Java SQL connector?"

"Duplicate question, closed"

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 35 points 4 months ago

Are we sure this deal is about answering new SO questions with LLM? It's more likely to be a deal where SO sells access to its database to OpenAI so they can use human-generated content for LLM training, and SO gets to use LLM as a more efficient search through its human-generated content.

It's possible they could also choose to delegate the duplicate decision to the LLM but let's be honest, that decision is currently crap anyway.

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 19 points 4 months ago

I think the joke is that the AI trained on SO data to the point that duplicate, similar, or common questions would get this treatment. Since that's common enough on SO to be a meme.

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[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Okay, but on current hardware/OS the previous solution is no longer valid... Hello?!

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Have you tried using Windows 11 instead of your weird Linux distro? Windows 11 is the best Operation system in the market, by the greatest software company Microsoft. It features the best user experience, not only removing all those complicated settings from your grasp but providing you with suggestions tailored just for you!

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[-] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 207 points 4 months ago

What annoys me about companies like StackOverflow, Reddit, Twitter, etc. partnering with AI firms is that they do not actually create any of the content on their platforms. Sure, if you read the terms they technically own the data, but still...

[-] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 101 points 4 months ago

Just more nonsense showing how broken modern copyright is. It's too hard to write weasely legalese to just say you have the right to reproduce content submitted to your website, you have to own it entirely. And if you own it, why not sell it?

[-] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

It's not difficult at all, these companies just have no reason to do it that way. They force you to agree to their terms before you can use the website at all, which means they're in a much better position to make demands. We can't counter with anything, it's just "agree that we own this copy of your content".

And most of us agree to it because we have no way of knowing that someday our content might actually be worth something.

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[-] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

That's basically what most tech companies are trying to optimize these days, the ability to make money off of other people's work. It's why they're so hyped about trying to use AI to replace the very workers it's trained on.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Most of modern civilization wasn't built by the current S&P500 — most of them didn't exist 50 years ago, let alone 100 — it was built by humanity, collectively, over thousands of years.

That fact won't stop any individual or corporation from trying to claim absolute dominion over the entire human population, all derivative works and resources, or the rest of our descendants futures, for all eternity.

[-] sudo42@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

The goal of every thief is to take something of value from someone else without any repercussions for themselves.

[-] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can't wait to get insulted by the AI for asking a "stupid" question and be told the answer has already been asked without a link but with a passive aggressive tone hinting my family tree might have been close knit akin to a thumbleweed.

[-] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 37 points 4 months ago

Or being to to google the problem with the only result being the question you just asked.

[-] Gormadt 26 points 4 months ago

We will fondly look back on the days of finding highly specific dead forum threads that are a decade or more old about the issue we were having.

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah but a lot of people don't really know what SO is for. They think you just go there and get help and call it a day. But the entire point is to produce structured questions, discourse, and answers aimed at future readers. Super specific, no-context, or duplicate problems are not useful. If you are not trying to generate useful content, don't go to SO.

Just look at all the people getting frustrated at being told "you should probably do it a different way." They really don't understand that just because they're asking the question, it's not all about them.

[-] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying it's not the friendliest way to enthuse beginners to this way of working.

I get it's frustrating, but when you're asking your first question ever, it feels like paying for everyone else. xD

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[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 85 points 4 months ago

Now they partner with OpenAI after banning AI answers provided by users? Wow, such hypocrisy https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/policy-generative-ai-e-g-chatgpt-is-banned

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago

Now they're getting paid, so fuck you!

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

That exactly tracks. You can't feed answers from an AI into an AI. It gets all incesty (technical term). So they have to ban user submitted AI answers.

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[-] OuterRem@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Were they trying to avoid having AI produced output sold as LLM input along with their human user generated content? I wonder if this was some big picture decision or pure coincidence.

[-] lorkano@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Banning AI answers was reasonable though. People were posting were too many not verified and incorrect code snippets that entire quality of the platform would decrease. AI still makes more mistakes than humans that provide responses on stack.

[-] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 4 months ago

Chatgpt: How do I kill all the children in this thread?

As a AI model I'm not allowed to promote violence against... Also since children are involved this case was reported to your local enforcement agency

[-] Xirup@yiffit.net 8 points 4 months ago

Does ChatGPT can really report you in case you say something like this? Is it just a threat or can it really become more?

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 months ago

Chat GPT generates plausible auto-complete text. If it has been trained on saying "this case was reported to your local law enforcement agency", those are the kinds of words it might spit out.

[-] Scio@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago

A match made in hell

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago

Jesus fuck, don’t take Stack away. I rely on it.

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 49 points 4 months ago

Are you serious? Such a great loss.

[-] superfes@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

On the plus side, it can't get any worse.

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 73 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As an AI language model I'm not able to answer duplicate questions and this was asked before. Closing.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 47 points 4 months ago

lol this is going to be fantastically catastrophic. ChatGPT is going to end up indirectly writing so much code. And I am fully aware how often ChatGPT give you absolute nonsense when asked to write some code. It’s got a decently high hit rate for relatively unchallenging stuff, but it is nowhere NEAR 100% accurate.

TL;DR stackoverflow doesn’t understand how many developers naively copypaste shit from stackoverflow I guess? Wcgw

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

I'm more worried about Stack ruining gpt than gpt ruining stack.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Me: How would I write a for-loop that starts from the end of a list?

ChatGPT: Closing this conversation as this question has already been answered.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

The working solution being 5 child comments deep on a wrong solution flagged as correct is my favorite.

[-] uuhhhhmmmm@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago

But all user contributions on StackOverflow licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0... right?

https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago

Attribution — You must give appropriate credit

So, if Stack Overflow generates text based on any answer (or question) in Stack Overflow's DB, it must credit the person whose text it adapted.

Good luck with that...

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[-] moon@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

The snake eating its own tail

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Why is the OpenAI logo an anus?

OH. Oh right. Sorry. Withdrawn.

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Stack trying to remain relevant

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Oops! All Wrong Answers!

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 15 points 4 months ago

Makes sense, don't MS own SO, GH, OAI, and Minecraft?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Don't forget NPM.

And, while we're at it:

  • Bethesda
  • Activision
  • Blizzard
  • Obsidian
  • Mojang
  • Rare
[-] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago

God, I just can't wait for my AI generated dirt block pattern.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

Cool, I guess I'll go delete all my stuff...

[-] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 10 points 4 months ago

glad i deleted my acct years ago

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 15 points 4 months ago

the reason I go to stack overflow is the answers arent hallucinated by an AI

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